Getting your site listed

Discussion in 'General Marketing' started by CTABUK, May 25, 2005.

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    Is there a secret formua? Yes, is it really a secret? No. Greetings forum. I've been doing marketing for my site for a few years now, I get around the forums, so a few will know me here. I use simple logic, I don't spend hours changing my tags to suit Google, Yahoo or any other SE, but I am on position one throughout the world, in fact one guy said my tags were lousy, and he's probably right. I am a cumpulsive poster, I do at least 20 manual Directory submissions per day and try to change my content as often as possible, we have a big change coming up this weekend.
    I use the humble Google toolbar as a marketing aid, and it earns us money virtually every month. Search 'Google Alerts' via www.toolbar.google.com and place your keywords or subject matter into the Alert system. Next day you will receive an e-mail from big G telling you about media stories on your given subject. What I do is either e-mail the writer and say something like, sorry, but the facts are ..... I leave my phone number, that gives me time to do some research and get ready for that call. The BBC did a thing about Door to Door selling in Norfolk, I called them (thanks Google :rolleyes: ) and they phoned me back, live on air, I got my URL mentioned not by reading something so long that people would forget but by saying 'If you want the facts about this search CTAB on any search engine'. That is my secret, I use my Company initials as my trade name, I even post with it. It gets searched so many times that all the SE's have picked us up. We now have over 100 different search term titles (thanks www.statcounter.com) It is not what is in your keywords, it is to start with, but it is expressions from your site content that the spiders find. I'll give you some idea, our mortgages are all small, yet we are now the largest brokers in East Anglia and I spend just £2,000 per year in small ppc back up and generate millions of pounds in new business year in and year out. Create a niche, by being better, not bigger than your competitors, give a service and submit your initials (unique Search term) on to all of your pages, sit back and wait :D
     
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  2. ServerUnion

    ServerUnion Peon

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    Thanks for the info, the "enter" key is on the right side of the keyboard, feel free to use it.

    It really helps the content be readable...
     
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  3. Diamondbacks

    Diamondbacks Peon

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    #3
    What am I missing?

    I just did a Google search for "C T A B U K" and your site had only one (1) page listed [#5] in the first five (5) pages of results. Everything else was basically "forums" posts.

    I also just searched Yahoo and only one (1) page was listed [#29] in the first five (5) pages of results. Like Google, most of the results were forum posts.

    On MSN your page was number one... is that what you're referring to? :confused:

    You're right... there is no "secret" to getting your site listed in the search engines. All you have to do is have the search engine's spider follow a link to your site. ;)
     
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  4. Sirxl

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    wow...cool. very good reading how to make more $$$ . bravo
     
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  5. CTABUK

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    Search "CTAB" Therein lies the answer
     
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  6. Diamondbacks

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    Cool. :cool:

    What kind of traffic does "position one throughout the world" bring you?
     
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    I searched for ctab in Google:

    The domain name www.ctab.com and/or website are available for sale.
    The domain name www.ctab.com is for sale. Prices in the region of US$3775.
    Get On The Web Limited registered for its own websites, portals and client ...
    www.ctab.com/ - 3k - Cached - Similar pages

    :D
     
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  8. CTABUK

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    I've known that for ages, actually it goes up each year. How much traffic? 2000 per month. Of which 50% are forum's views 1000 potential buyers.
     
    CTABUK, May 26, 2005 IP
  9. Solicitors Mortgages

    Solicitors Mortgages Well-Known Member

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    Congrats with your listing.
    Not so sure i would like to talk on live radio about a website.
    Been typing so much lately i am not sure if the voice box still works :confused:
     
    Solicitors Mortgages, May 26, 2005 IP
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    Solicitors Mortgages Well-Known Member

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    ctab is not a very competitive search term....85,000 results...
    but congrats all the same.

    nb..you should get a webdesigner to revamp your site
    i will add you a free link on my Spalding page :)
     
    Solicitors Mortgages, May 26, 2005 IP
  11. Voasi

    Voasi Active Member

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    I don't think that is what CTABUK was going for. He gives an easy to remember acronym for his site and people can search for his site using that phrase, which is non-competitive to rank for. His site will probably be the only one in regards to mortgages, so he doesn't have to worry about searches clicking on other mortgage sites if he were to say "search google for 'mortgages in UK' and find my site"
     
    Voasi, May 26, 2005 IP
  12. CTABUK

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    Nearly right, in fact my keyword is 'Right to Buy' 'Mortgages for Council House Purchase'. I'm on page one on all the majors, except Google (page 3 .com) I've been top on Ask Jeeves for 2 whole years and page one on Yahoo for ages. I have the full IPB system, so my site is actually deliberately 'laid back' it is not optimised for any particular purpose, but thanks for the kind offer and the link in Spalding. In case anyone asks why not on Google. My search phrase is an Act of Parliment and Big G prefers to rank .Gov's ahead of mine. So basically I cheat and piggy back Google without paying for ads. How? Yes I knew you would ask that one lol. Simple and anyone can do it, run a search on Google for your keywords and see if www.searchy.co.uk (or com) is running its famous Google Ad Box search box 'Top 15 Search Engine Results for 'Search Term', if it is, run a tiny ppc campaign with e-spotting and Overture/Yahoo for the same search term.Results, wow. Also a neat trick with Google is to get your self on Dog Pile & Hot Bot I get loads of searches via Google on those two.
     
    CTABUK, May 27, 2005 IP
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    Thank you for taking the time to explain this.
     
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    Yeah appreciate all the tips, CTAB... very interesting and dare I say original! :)

    -datadugout
     
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  15. CTABUK

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    Thank you for that, so I will expand this. To optimise a site for Google is crazy, to optimise for Yahoo is crazy too. So many people fail to realise that within your tags are page keywords. It is those words or phrases that the spiders read. Simple test, take your site here www.SiteReportCard.com
    and run it through the tests. To crack the Dmoz thing, visit www.resource-zone.com and read as many threads as you can, then join the forum and post, and post again, in about three weeks go to your google toolbar and type in "yoursig" and you will see that you will have picked up BL's from Google.

    Use www.toolbar.google.com as a marketing tool, if you want to know how, simply ask me.
     
    CTABUK, Jun 1, 2005 IP
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    I'm under the impression that your strategy revolves around using a non-competitive keyword/phrase such as "C T A B." With that said, if for some reason "C T A B" became competitive and you no longer held your previous position for the term would it still be "crazy" to optimize your page for the search engines?

    This sounds like "Keywords 101" or am I missing something?

    It was my understanding that "signatures" were not allowed at "RZ" unless you were an editor. :confused:

    What do you mean by this?
     
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  17. CTABUK

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    Hi, and thanks maybe on reflection sigs was the wrong word, but I always refer to ctabuk as being my sig, as it follows me around the forums like a shadow. No I have never used CTAB as a search term, my main search term is 'Right to Buy' and I do very well on it. But not through optimisation of my site, but by key phrases on pages that the bots find. I'll demonstrate. I'm a Mortgage Broker, one of the many Lenders we use are Infinity Mortgages, now search them on Google and look at their tags. You can come back on that one later.
    Asking a question at the end of a thread also gets read by spiders, so thanks for asking about google toolbar.
    Within the toolbar is Google Alert - sign up for it, and if you want maximum results do it through Gmail, if you don't have gmail, email me at (please note I use it again) and I'll enroll you with pleasure.
    In the alert search box put in your Keywords, mine is obviously Right to Buy, so every single day I get an e-mail from Google giving me links into media articles on my subject matter, I then contact the writer, or the editor and I do a follow up article pointing out little mistakes etc, or I get contenscious but never rude, I always include my phone number! If I get a phone call or an e-mail I do a deal with the paper, if I give them the facts they need, they include either my Company Name, or my Company Initials CTAB or my url or phone number. We have been in the News of the World and live on National TV. It works :D
     
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    Thank You For Information. (SB)
     
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    I Am A Man Of 51 Years Old And Wants Time Sharing Personnals.
     
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