Getting Frustrated.

Discussion in 'ClickBank' started by wvstephens, Dec 19, 2007.

  1. #1
    Ok as many of you know I have just started in CB, I have 2 niche sites, one site has had no sales but I have not done a lot of promotion so that I understand. The other site has had 5 sales and 5 refunds. Nice batting average huh.

    Well anyway last night I started a campaign and I invested in adwords. I have made the ad, and I stated in the ad the cost of purchase. I assumed that it would make the traffic more targeted since they know the price before clicking the ad. The item sales for $47.00 and is a program for learning photoshop.

    I have had over 85 hops and no sales. This campaign does not have a landing page. I have the link redirected to the publishers site. I am just getting frustrated. I have been at this for about a month now and nothing in return. What am I doing wrong?
     
    wvstephens, Dec 19, 2007 IP
  2. kyleiskewl

    kyleiskewl Peon

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    Yea I was getting pretty frustrated with mine and then I ended up trying a new campaign without the price in the listing and got very very targeted keywords and I had a 1 in 8 conversion today!
     
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  3. dropship

    dropship Active Member

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    Yes conversions will be much greater with targeted campaigns over non-targeted.
     
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  4. wvstephens

    wvstephens Active Member

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    Well I am changing up the campaign a bit. I am using more targeted keywords, we will see how it goes. And for some more motivation to my self I am building a new niche site. It will be live in a few days.
     
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  5. upnya

    upnya Active Member

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    Its too bad that this is one of those gigs where working hard wont gaurentee you'll make any money.

    Just keep at it!
     
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  6. wvstephens

    wvstephens Active Member

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    Yes unfortunatly Upnya I have learn this lesson the hard way. I guess you live and you learn, but I will get it all to work at some point in time I am sure. It is just hard to wait till that happens :)
     
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  7. Swerd

    Swerd Active Member

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    are you using negative keywords?

    if someone searches "free photoshop lessons" and you link comes up, they will still click on it just to check it out.
     
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  8. wvstephens

    wvstephens Active Member

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    No I am not using negative keywords. I am just using keywords that are directed. Such as Photoshop tutorials, photoshop how to etc... Not using anything with free in the keyword. Also like I stated I put the price in the ad as well to hopefully get clicks that are already willing to pay.
     
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  9. LionCirth

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    Hi,

    I would say a keyword such as Photoshop tutorial is going to have a lot of competition

    Have you tried things like;

    Photoshop guide
    Mastering photoshop
    Photoshop e-book

    There are alot of sites not just affiliate sites that would have photoshop tutorial as a main keyword
     
    LionCirth, Dec 19, 2007 IP
  10. surf4fun

    surf4fun Peon

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    the main thing u r doing wrong is u r promoting other ppls product not urs

    give service to ppl social bookmark submission directory submission mass blog posting article submission etc etc .. buy tools or get a programmer for custom tool


    sale ppl in dp ur own ebook/secret info that u have found urself.. how to make money how to get traffic sales killing in dp..

    sale a script or software that u developed or developed using get a freelancer programmers..

    sell adword vouchers virtual credit card webhosting traffic or any item in any niche forum like dp..

    sell real items on ebay .. NOT BOGUS EBOOKS OR VIDEOS

    ask urself what is that u have for sale.. service or product?

    dont have anything??

    dont waiste money on adwords .. and use outsourcing to buy social bookmark submission directory submission forum submission yahoo answer submission... and get free traffic for life..

    good luck..

    hope u come out of affiliate marketing soon like me..
     
    surf4fun, Dec 19, 2007 IP
  11. WilsonA

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    put negative keywords like
    - free
    - scam
    - crack
    - serial
    and also try and put the word buy or buying in your ad to make it more
    targeted
     
    WilsonA, Dec 19, 2007 IP
  12. LionCirth

    LionCirth Member

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    This has got to be useless and pointless post of the year...

    get out of affiliate marketing? if you advise people that then wouldnt you run out of people advertising your products?

    Affiliate marketing was designed to advertise peoples products as they cannot create their own products. I make a decent amount as an affiliate and i expect many many other people do or else it wouldnt be so popular :)

    Please take note im not flamming or insulting your reply i just dont find it constructive in offering this guy some support

     
    LionCirth, Dec 19, 2007 IP
  13. GeorgR.

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    the problem with that kind of stuff is....there are certainly a bunch of freely acessible turorials and courses online.
    Your course should offer something incredible oustanding which the others dont have. But i can see this is difficult.
     
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    :D sorry if it hurts u..

    but i was telling him why bill gates never sales others products
    and why top web gurus.. sales their own crap.. not market for others..

    build something good put some money into it and it will sale..

    for example say u dont have any product or service..

    build a website arcade gaming or anything

    hire some outsourcing workers for social bookmark submission directory submission article submission yahoo answer promotion link building/exchange etc

    make the website popular

    now sale ur own website or sale links of it when it reaches pr..

    SALE 30 WEBSITE a month like this (Attach affiliate urls like adsense cj clickbank copeac in it that is extra income to show ppl that ur site earns money)

    and u r already in profit.. (MAKING UR OWN PRODUCTS/Websites)


    GOT THE IDEA? :)

    my brother in UK got frustrated like him spending 1000S of dollars online in adwords and crap ppc and traffic buying

    only later realised google is selling service so if he could sell a service he would be rich too..
     
    surf4fun, Dec 20, 2007 IP
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    I'd agree with 'Surf4Fun', promoter's promoter and earning through commissions can be tough. You may not be at the very source of problem by changing similar key-words to additionally narrow the targeted market group etc, but why you have no % of already existing photoshop-interested visitors turning to buyers.

    Visitors are the same visitors if they find you through free search results for 'a program for learning photoshop' or paid advertisement, the chance they will turn to buyers once visiting your site depends on your sale offer, advertisement brings more potential buyers, not promised buyers. I presume you have anylized the market and questioned have many people are buying programs for learning photoshop to make projection on possibilities of sales.
     
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  16. surf4fun

    surf4fun Peon

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    one more point here i want to make or raise

    is that..

    in 2007 ppl have become smarter.. by the year 2010 they will be more smart..

    ppl dont buy anything instantly.. they go search for review and end up on forums or disscussion boards or yahoo answer like problem solve sites or article ezine sites..

    also a point to be noted is if its digital item (like clickbank book or software or tool or bots or scripts or training videos) 70% of ppl dont buy it.. they go to some cheap class pirated forums and download it ..

    30% who are newbie or who have some ethics left and want to say thank you buy it..

    I want to say is if u want to sell digital products.. best place to sale them is DIGITAL POINT FORUM.. As long as ur product is new and really worth ... But u cannot sale affiliate items on digital point or any other forum on buy sell section.. (got the point u cannot sale others items even u r affiliate and its treated as spam)

    but u can put them on ur signature..(who buys from signature?)

    another guideline to follow is peoples basic interest in web is three things

    MONEY
    TRAFFIC
    GIRLS (SEcx!)

    .. and basic need (Like rice meat water in real life)

    Is DOMAINS
    WEB HOSTING
    CASHING OUT THE MONEY FUNDING VERIFYING PREPAID CARDS ETC
    ...

    and almost everybody on web are in forums or chat rooms or myspace kind dating sites.. or playing games surfing adult content watching utube videos downloading on rapidshare/warezforums ..bookmarking on stumbleupon diggs..
    so u get the idea where are ppls other then search engine..(which was case of 1999)

    newbies buys from adwords.. i myself never buy anything advertised in adwords.. i come and search in forums or blogs to see what other ppl are saying
     
    surf4fun, Dec 20, 2007 IP
  17. LionCirth

    LionCirth Member

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    :) I do agree with you in away though - im just saying this guy could be promoting these because he cannot create his own product :)

    I do promote others things and make some $$ out of it (although its alot of work)

    I do keep having plans to write e-books and putting them on ClickBank but i am having a problem finding subjects to write about..

    I have one book in mind but im not sure if it will sell and in the end if anyone will promote it lol

    Its a e-book aimed at writers giving them advice on how to make the best stories in books and games and how they can go about getting there book published or their games made
     
    LionCirth, Dec 20, 2007 IP