Get executed for what you say on your blog

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Will.Spencer, Jul 24, 2008.

  1. Barti1987

    Barti1987 Well-Known Member

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    #41
    I really can't explain it to you more than I did above.

    If you want to know what I think, you should ask before you assume.

    I personally think that no human has the right to take the life of any other human, no matter what the reason is (including murder).

    Did you even bother reading any of my above posts or are you the type of person who likes to accuse people to make his point?

    Killing someone for what they believe in or who they are is intolerable and can not be justified by any means.

    Killing people for doing certain actions that the host country doesn't allow it is justified by such laws.

    Peace,
     
    Barti1987, Jul 25, 2008 IP
  2. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #42
    You have very clearly explained your justification for the murder of homosexuals.
     
    browntwn, Jul 25, 2008 IP
  3. Barti1987

    Barti1987 Well-Known Member

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    #43
    If that is what you deducted from my posts, I really can't help you anymore (it is not my job to teach people how to read).

    Peace,
     
    Barti1987, Jul 25, 2008 IP
  4. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #44
    Your words speak for themselves. I don't think I need to add anything for everyone to see your position.
     
    browntwn, Jul 25, 2008 IP
  5. Barti1987

    Barti1987 Well-Known Member

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    #45
    You do, however, to make your case, you are extracting the posts that you want. You are the type of person who will take things out of context to prove their point.

    My discussion with you regarding this subject ends here.

    Peace,
     
    Barti1987, Jul 25, 2008 IP
  6. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #46
    Do you or do you not think it is perfectly okay for Iran to kill homosexuals because it is against Iranian law?

    A yes or no answer should suffice.

    I thought you were pretty clear on that topic, but your last post makes it seem like I twisted your words. If you don't think it is okay for Iran to kill homosexuals, then I would expect you would say so. (I am not saying that you would kill them, or that you think it is a good law, just that you think since the law is there, it is okay for Iran to kill homosexuals.)
     
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  7. Dead Corn

    Dead Corn Peon

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    #47
    These Iranians... such a fun bunch.
     
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    #48
    Well I certainly don't think so :) at least I beg to differ with regards to their laws. I certainly don't wish to go to Iran and back minus an arm or a leg. Not saying that their laws are bad, each have their own preferences, just saying that people like me aren't suitable to live in societies with such laws.


     
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    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    #49
    I would hate it, they would probably try to take my dog away for being un-Islamic, then I would have to sic my dog on them.:)
     
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    webwork Banned

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    #50
    Sometimes I wonder why you post here. You haven't contributed much but one line insults lately.

    High five.

    No sir.

    I would convert your dog to Islam. He (?) would take 3 wives. If its a she, she would look funny in the garb.
     
    webwork, Jul 26, 2008 IP
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    #51
    By the way homosexuals were getting tried and hanged only 100 years ago in England.

    While Iran may be behind in the times, it doesn't mean they are E-V-I-L.
     
    webwork, Jul 26, 2008 IP
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    #52
    Some posts are only worthy of being made fun of.:)
     
    debunked, Jul 27, 2008 IP
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    #53
    The US has had a constition granting freedom of speech since 1791.

    Iran is way behing the times.
     
    bogart, Jul 27, 2008 IP
  14. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #54
    Murdering people because you don't like their sexual orientation is evil no matter what year it is.

    As Thomas Jefferson wrote:

    Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law', because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.​
     
    Will.Spencer, Jul 27, 2008 IP
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    bogart Notable Member

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    #55
    Thomas Jefferson also cleaned out the Barbary Pirates in United States first war on terrorism.
     
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    #56
    Then you must understand why everyone makes fun of you. :D
     
    gworld, Jul 28, 2008 IP
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    #57
    Why is it that America is suprised when they try to force their laws and way of life on other countries and in return countries act aggressively towards us?

    There is no doubt in my mind one day Iran will change its ways and become a more free place to live. This will come in time, its inevitable - the change will come from within the country not from the outside.

    The solution is not through threats, embargoes, etc... This only breeds resentment and will make the process even longer.

    Yes it is wrong to put homosexuals to death. But on the same token it simply isn't our place to be apart of the lawmaking process if we don't even live in the country.

    If you feel like doing good, your time is better spent on people who actually ask for, need, and want help.
     
    webwork, Jul 28, 2008 IP
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    stOx Notable Member

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    #58
    It depends what the law is. For instance, do western countries have the right to tell islamic states what speed limits to have, how much VAT to charge or what age children have to be in school till? No, we don't. Do we have a right to fight against any regime which executes people for crimes such as homosexuality? Yes we do. In fact, we have more than a right, We have a duty to.

    This goes beyond being a part of the law making process, This is about halting abhorrent injustices. something which the imaginary lines on a map should have no influence over.
     
    stOx, Jul 28, 2008 IP
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    #59
    That's a great idea you have. Let's sacrifice the lives of many of ours to save the lives of a few of theirs.

    We can go in, utterly destroy them, and leave with our government in place, having the people hate us with a huge bill for our taxpayers to pay to boot. This probably sounds familiar.

    Meanwhile, if homosexuals (or anyone else for that matter) do not like the laws of the country they can leave. Pretty simple.

    As long as people think that "halting abhorrent injustices" is done with the gun, people will always be shooting each other.
     
    webwork, Jul 28, 2008 IP
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    #60
    I didn't mean fight as in "go to war", I meant fight as in "oppose their ideologies". There are severe political pressures we could put on them, to name one of the countless other methods available to us, before war becomes an option.

    the fact of the matter is we can't stand by as supposed civilised societies and turn a blind eye to something like state sanctioned murder of people based on their sexuality. The best way to tackle it would take some thinking about, But something needs to done and this practice needs to come to a stop. it's simply not good enough to pretend we aren't obliged to help just because the people effected happen to be surrounded by a different imaginary line on a map and hope that "one day Iran will change its ways".
     
    stOx, Jul 28, 2008 IP