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German Interior Minister: Islam is part of our future

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Ibn Juferi, Oct 1, 2006.

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  1. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #281
    Commandment Jewish / Protestant/Catholic / Lutheran / New Church

    You shall have no other gods before me.
    You shall not make for yourself an idol...
    You shall not make wrongful use of the name of the Lord your God...
    Remember the Sabbath, and keep it holy...
    Honor your father and your mother...
    You shall not murder.
    You shall not commit adultery.
    You shall not steal.
    You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
    You shall not covet your neighbor's wife.
    You shall not covet your neighbor's house...

    Which one is it that you and your mr m have not broken. Since you guys claim to believe in Jesus too and Jesus fullfilled the law above, I'd like to hear from you ...
    ...what did muhammad do? ... broke them all
     
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    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #282
    .. furthermore menj, show me one of the Apostels of Jeus who acted against the law above after they were decipled and fullfilled with the Holy Spirit? ...

    And let us know what muhammad so did?

    It's a bit too cheap and too close to blasphemy to say we believe in Jesus too but acting against his spirit.

    There was no relgion before which had such a clear misconception than yours and which is full of sin and commandments to sin.
     
    Arnie, Oct 3, 2006 IP
  3. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #283
    It really doesn't get any clearer than that.
     
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  4. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #284
    I don't believe I have done any of the above. Unless if you consider killing mosquitoes as murder :D


    None of the laws were broken by the Prophet Muhammad (P).

    - MENJ
     
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  5. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #285
    Oh, I can think of one fella. But although he claims to have met Jesus, I personally think that he lied :D

    Here.

    Misconceptions can be answered. As for where "full of sin and commandments to sin" is concern, no religion does it better than Christianity.

    - MENJ
     
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  6. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #286
    If Moe hadn't made himself an idol, you primitive screwheads woudn't run around murdering people every time someone insults your "great and powerful Moe."
     
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  7. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #287
    We don't worship the Prophet, so there never was an issue of him being an "idol".

    - MENJ
     
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  8. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #288
    Then please back up these hollow words with actions and quit murdering people, K?
     
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  9. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #289
    Its impossible to control the behaviour of 1.3 billion people. There will always be those who takes things too far in every religion. Your Muslim co-workers didn't inform you of that small, simple fact?

    - MENJ
     
    Ibn Juferi, Oct 4, 2006 IP
  10. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    Unlike you, they do not condone or defend Islamic terrorism.
     
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  11. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    Well I don't. I never condoned terrorism.

    - MENJ
     
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  12. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    Ahem. You speak out of both sides of your mouth.

    1. You're a Hamas supporter.
    2. Hamas is a terrorist group.

    Yet you claim not to support terorists. You're a liar. Is that acceptable behavior in your Islamist fantasy world?

    Please, you are wasting your time with all of this lying. DP members aren't stupid. You aren't fooling anyone with your relentess propagandizing and denial of the truth.
     
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  13. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    We have said this before. Hamas is not a terror organisation. They do not have cells all over the world.

    I am a "liar" to you only because I pointed out the fact that Hamas was elected into multi-party elections recently, did not bomb their own voters and used political power to achieve their objectives?

    You are a nutcase.

    I would attest to that, at least those without an Islamophobia bias in their hearts.

    - MENJ
     
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  14. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    Current List of Designated Foreign Terrorist Organizations

    1. Abu Nidal Organization (ANO)
    2. Abu Sayyaf Group
    3. Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade
    4. Ansar al-Islam
    5. Armed Islamic Group (GIA)
    6. Asbat al-Ansar
    7. Aum Shinrikyo
    8. Basque Fatherland and Liberty (ETA)
    9. Communist Party of the Philippines/New People's Army (CPP/NPA)
    10. Continuity Irish Republican Army
    11. Gama’a al-Islamiyya (Islamic Group)
    12. HAMAS (Islamic Resistance Movement)
    13. Harakat ul-Mujahidin (HUM)
    14. Hizballah (Party of God)
    15. Islamic Jihad Group
    16. Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU)
    17. Jaish-e-Mohammed (JEM) (Army of Mohammed)
    18. Jemaah Islamiya organization (JI)
    19. al-Jihad (Egyptian Islamic Jihad)
    20. Kahane Chai (Kach)
    21. Kongra-Gel (KGK, formerly Kurdistan Workers' Party, PKK, KADEK)
    22. Lashkar-e Tayyiba (LT) (Army of the Righteous)
    23. Lashkar i Jhangvi
    24. Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE)
    25. Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG)
    26. Moroccan Islamic Combatant Group (GICM)
    27. Mujahedin-e Khalq Organization (MEK)
    28. National Liberation Army (ELN)
    29. Palestine Liberation Front (PLF)
    30. Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ)
    31. Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLF)
    32. PFLP-General Command (PFLP-GC)
    33. al-Qa’ida
    34. Real IRA
    35. Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC)
    36. Revolutionary Nuclei (formerly ELA)
    37. Revolutionary Organization 17 November
    38. Revolutionary People’s Liberation Party/Front (DHKP/C)
    39. Salafist Group for Call and Combat (GSPC)
    40. Shining Path (Sendero Luminoso, SL)
    41. Tanzim Qa'idat al-Jihad fi Bilad al-Rafidayn (QJBR) (al-Qaida in Iraq) (formerly Jama'at al-Tawhid wa'al-Jihad, JTJ, al-Zarqawi Network)
    42. United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia (AUC)

    Source: http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/fs/37191.htm
     
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  15. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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  16. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #296
    The world does not revolve about the State Department of the United States, so we could not care less.

    By the way, Abu Nidal (#1) is one of the Palestinian resistance groups supported in the PLO. So is the Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades (#3), which is a military wing of Fatah. By your own criteria, Fatah should be regarded as a terrorist organisation. So why do you support them?

    Double standards are as glaring as the blazing sun.

    - MENJ
     
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    #297
    menj, mind sharing your opinion as to why most (i didn't say all) the problem areas in the world today are caused by conflicts and terrorism linked to muslims?

    islam teaches good but why a large dis-proportionate percentage of problems are caused by muslims? although i try to give people the benefit of doubt, it would seem to me that it's part of the culture of most muslim groups...
     
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  18. Will.Spencer

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    Yep, terrorists and more terrorists. It seems that terrorism is the only thing that Islam has to offer to the world.
     
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    We all know USA supports terrorist groups too. Do you want 2 simple examples? al-Qa’ida and PKK (Kongra-Gel). al-Qa’ida's leader Usame Bin Laden was under USA's support before. USA even made weapon suppliments for al-Qa’ida. But what happened later? We all know.. Another example that I know very well is PKK. USA and Israel have always been supporting Kurds to divide Turkey. If you research for it you can easily find a lot of proofs. We've lost 30.000 young people against PKK. And what caused this is USA and Israel, and their slave-kurds of course.
     
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  20. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    We have our own problems in the Muslim World, due to political disparity, dictatorships, tyrants and foreign political interference (including, but not limited to, the US of A). Also there are many variables and factors involved which caused many extremists to take advantage of the situation and start terrorism.

    - MENJ
     
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