Gaza conflict: Who is a civilian? This is interesting article about Israeli attacks and we most parts of it I completly agree. In wars or conflicts combantants and building they use are legitime targets and noone have problems with that but you can't simply bomb the shit out of everything that is somehow affiliated with Hamas because that means they can do the same thing back at you. They are terrorist and if you use same standards as them you are not better than them.
Keep in mind, I'm totally neutral and my interest in the entire matter doesn't extend beyond cable news, but regarding your opinion... How do you suggest Israel eliminate the terrorists? Perhaps if you (or anyone that shares the same opinion) has an absolutely brilliant, civilian casualty free idea that you wouldn't mind sharing with top Israeli military officials, you could help everyone out! I'm not trying to be a smart-ass, but the bottom line is - war kills people, and yes, that includes civilians. It's entirely unavoidable, like it or not. So unless someone here on DP has an elite strategy to eliminate civilian deaths AND terrorist organizations like Hamas simultaneously, then what the hell is the point of crying about it in 1 out of 3 threads in the P&R section? Looking forward to a solution....
It does suck that civilians are killed, but that sadly is a fact of war and why war should be avoided at all costs.
You can't bomb the shit out of heavily populated areas and than claim that you are doing everything you can to avoid civilian casulties. It's completly nonsense to say at least. Period. There's no perfect solution for something like that. If there is there wouldn't be a war in first place. And this article isn't about so called "collateral damage" at all. It disscus what you may consider legitime target in particual conflict. Read the article again and than get back to me if you get it.
Article is not talking about civilians. It's about who can be legitime target in particular conflict.
Hopefully the Palestinians get Hamas to stop attacking Israel. That would be the surest way to prevent the need for Israel to retaliate against Hamas injuring innocent bystanders in the process. The blame for civilian deaths lies solely with Hamas - who chose to treat Gaza as a base to attack Israel. It is not even necessary to detail how Hamas purposely endangers the Palestinian population with their 'tactics'.
Again, read the article. It's not about civilians. It's about who can be seen as legitime target of Israeli attacks and I find it interesting. Is anyone who is in any way affiliated with Hamas rule in Gaza is legitime target of Israeli jets?
this is what the illegal terrorist state of Israel says always, even in 2006 case and before, but I wonder everytime I hear it: Why are you hoping that Palestinians get Hamas to stop? isn't that campaign was supposedly launched to get Hamas to stop, even at the beginning it was to remove Hamas? does that mean Israel can't stop Hamas? so they hope Palestinians would? and if they can't stop Hamas, why they started this campaign? and what do they follow to make Palestinians get Hamas to stop? This shows the real goals behind this campaign which is to terrorize and kill civilians hoping they would stop Hamas. The blame is on the one who intentionally kill civilians, and who has a long history in targeting civilians as a way to gain, this been done by the illegal state of Israel since 1948, not only against Arabs, but also others, and it continued till 2006 war, when investigations done by independent neutral organizations proved that Israel target civilians on purpose, if you want sources just ask, even though I posted them before
Okay, usually I would take the time to come up with something a bit more elaborate, but due to a lack of time, interest, and an awesome Ohio State v Texas Fiesta bowl game on, I'll have to pass. Plus the fact that, well, I don't really care at this point - you all act like you've never seen a war before? Lets go OHIO STATE!!!
Is that makes anyone affiliated with their enemy legitime targets for them too? Or do you take that right only for yourself? What about guys working in city council, a doormen for example? Is he legitime target too? Sometimes is better to stay out of something. Try it.
Let me ask you something ... If 5 people going to rob a bank, 4 of them is in the bank with guns etc and one "gunless" driver is waiting, do you think the driver is commiting a crime or he is "just" a texi driver? You don't need to answer.
Nonsense comparision but in civilized world we wouldn't shoot driver in a head because he is unarmed and you would and you would be proud of it as I can see. I have better example for you: whil enazis were ruling in most of occupied Europe if anyone who worked in any way in city councils for example were legitime target and a nazi supporter? What about those working in all structures of goverment, schools, hospitals... Where they affiliated with nazis too? And you didn't answer my question so I'll repeat it again: Is that makes anyone affiliated with their enemy legitime targets for them too? Or do you take that right only for yourself?