Gay weddings become law in the UK

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What do you think?

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  1. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #141
    hmm didn't realise black and white could not have kids, again sorry a very, very weak argument. Come up with something good and I may change my mind, I still see nothing but grasps at trying to twist information into something it is not.
     
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    #142
    I'm really tall and sometimes people said stuff to me.

    Like one time this guy said "How's the weather up there"

    I spit on him and said "It's raining"

    I just like random posts.
     
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    #143
    Race to me is never an issue. Trust me, I've dated out of my race a lot. There shouldn't even be a label such as "my race" coming to think of it, but hey ... that's the society we live in.
     
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  4. Crazy_Rob

    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    #144
    I just want to know what result homosexual parents have on the development of their children.

    I'm starting to think that it's probably nothing too significant.

    I remember seeing something that says that boys might be less sexually aggressive, and that girls are more sexually aggressive.

    That doesn't seem so bad. Especially considering gays are just 1-3% of the entire population. And kids of gay parents aren't more likely to be gay.
     
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    #145
    Yeah I've never really heard anything reliable on this either. I guess I'm just going to have to go research myself.

    I guess I'm going to have to go get married to some guy, adopt kids, and raise the kids. I'll be right back.

    I am not going to "do it" with my husband so it should be just like a normal marriage.
     
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    #146
    To be honest I'm not really sure what it is *you're* saying exists. I don't really see any post from you that explains your point of view. Ultimately it doesn't really matter what you or I think. Gay people exist, and they still have reproductive organs. If they really want to have kids then they'll have them. :cool:
     
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    #147
    The real issue is the fact that their isn't an opposite sex role model. So with two guys, whether the child is male or female, it helps their development to have a good female role model in their life.

    Talk to any gay couple who are looking towards adoption or surogacy and they will readily talk about this. They will usually have a support system where if its two women they introduce a male role model, usually within the family structure, such as an an uncle.

    Where are those supports in society most times when a man bails out of a relationship and leaves to women to raise the child/children on their own? Or worse yet, the damage a horrible role model can do.

    I just don't think that "because the kid will be teased" is a valid reason to be against gay parents...Like someone else said, we would then have to ban ugly parents because I know as a kid when it was "Open House" time at school and the parents came in, I would always make fun of the kid with the 400lb mother with a hairy mole, not the kid with two moms. ;)
     
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    #148
    So you don't think it causes confusion for a child to grow up in a homosexual household?
     
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    #149
    Everything causes confusion to a developing child from the time they are born. Its better to learn about it and understand it then to brand it as "wrong" and further foster that attitude which has lead to violence and misunderstandings.

    Thats not to say I don't respect someones belief that homosexuality is wrong...But that should remain as a personal belief without trampling on others rights.
     
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    #150
    What I'm more concerned about is the right of the child. Normally the kids who are being adopted are the ones who are powerless and without a voice. They will have to deal with whatever decisions are being made for them. The agencies decide: sure, let's look very open minded and have a few gay couples adopt some kids so we don't get heat from the gay rights movement.
     
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    #151
    That isn't how the adoption process works, no matter where the child is from. It is probably one of the most difficult and emotionally draining processes around fraught with heaps of paperwork, interviews, etc and even then you are usually on a list.

    They aren't at the airport handing babies to gay couples to appease them.

    Now I am sure there are black market adoption agencies skirting around the laws of the US and elsewhere but you really can't figure them into the equation as they are just as likely to give a child to a horrible or abusive hetero environment due to money being the driving force
     
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    #152
    Since everyone here talks about his gay relatives, here is mine:
    my uncle goes both ways, or rather was straight up gay and then finally got married (to a female, a real bitch btw.) at age 40. He "acts very gay" and I remember it weirding me out when I was a kid.

    However the adoption process works, the kids have no say-so. I'm sure they will grow to love their parental figgures, but the question is what effect it will have on them being raised in a household with 2 same-sex parents showing each others intimate affection.
     
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    #153
    That isn't unique to the gay adoption scenerio, its obvioulsy true in ALL adoptions...Typically these days if they aren't adopted they will be left in an orphanage receiving the same sub standard medical care and having NO parental figures at all
    I'm not sure why showing loving affection (We aren't talking about the stereotype that these are two gay guys going at it in every room regardless of where the children are) would produce a negative....Studies already show that the children of a gay couple don't have any more tendency to be gay then the child of a hetero one....So I would think witnessesing love and respect would benefit them greatly in their own development
     
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    #154
    but still, kids are very receptive, they pick up on it. Sure, you can always find some disfunctional straight family and say kids would be better off in a gay household where they don't do drugs or electricity gets shut down because mom and dad don't pay the bills. I think it's very easy for an adult to say "hey, this shouldn't have an effect". Especially for one that has grown up in a conventional household. I'd be interested to see some real studies on that subject and get some opinions from those who have grown up in a gay household. But since that hasn't been happening for too long, there doesn't seem to be anything that really tells us anything.
     
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    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    #155
    Did you try looking? Because i did and I actually did find some research that backs up exactly what ysfbot is saying.
     
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    #156
    k show me one of those pages.
     
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    Heres a start:

     
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    #158
    I'm glad you found that article yfs1, now I don't have to go marry a man just to see what happens.

    I think a big part of the harassment that kids face has to do on where they live. In a large metro area it's not going to be as big of a factor as in small rural areas for a number of reasons.

    It seems to me that the harrassment that kids of LGBT parents suffer is equivalent to race issues a few decades ago and will lessen considerably the more people are exposed to them.
     
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    #160
    Lazy? I'm reading it for myself. I was going to ask you to tell me what it says, but fine :D


    The wording in those articles is pretty vague. I see senteces such as
    and
    basically they are saying a lot of "Gay parenting can be good" instead of "Gay parenting in general is as good as straight couples parenting.
     
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