Gay weddings become law in the UK

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by DarrenC, Dec 4, 2005.

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What do you think?

  1. Yay!

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  2. Eewew

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  3. Not bothered

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  1. uca

    uca Well-Known Member

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    #61
    I can't be bothered. It shouldn't be an issue.
    Gay marriages should be allowed in any civilized state or nation.

    Don't get me wrong, I do NOT believe being gay is right, just that it has to be accepted.

    I even quite like a few gays I met in my life, but only as a person, not for their sexual orientation.

    I see them as unlucky, I am not sure where that totally and obviously innatural problem comes from and don't hit me with that "dogs do it too", "Napoleon and Julius Caesar were gays too", and all that crap.

    Nevertheless, I CANNOT accept that they can bring up children. I don't think I am always right, so my opinion could change in the future, just as it did for gay marriages, but I know that gays were forced into hiding for a long time, they "had" to get married, have kids, and so on...

    So, I don't mind having gay friends, some are really great people, very talented in a way or in another, and really can't understand how blind some people can be not allowing them total freedom.

    Of course I go mad at gays that show no respect for those that are disgusted by their sexuality (and that should be understandable too) and openly kiss and hug in public places. But that applies to straight couples too.

    I hope I made myself understood.:confused:
     
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  2. Crazy_Rob

    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    #62
    Anyone know what % of the population is gay?
     
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    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    All I know is that the official number has been increasing over the years, used to be around 3.5% at one point.
     
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    Hodgedup Notable Member

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    #64
    Where did you get that figure from?
     
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    Hodgedup Notable Member

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    Shawn could make a tool that intergrates with the usermap and shows how many people are gay on DP. He's real good at programming things.
     
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    #66
    LOL some school teacher I think told us or I've read it in a magazine, that was back in junior high though and the number stuck with me. According to some of these sites it's more like 1-2 %
     
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  7. yfs1

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    #67
    I assume you are reffering to HIV/AIDS (I doubt you are concerned about gay people spreading the flu)...THe whole idea that it was spread by Gays is a false one. In the 80's the number one cause was the sharing of needles but that has been quickly eclipsed by heterosexual sex.

    All that is besides the point. Allowing marriage does not encourage "being gay" or unprotected sex. Unprotected sex being the real issue, not merely being gay
    First of all, last time I looked propogation was not an issue...If anything population growth is out of control and the gay population, no matter what rights they are afforded will not change this trend. Wouldn't you prefer someone who is gay not to have children and be happy then to be forced into a heterosexual relationship merely to have children :confused:

    Adoption or surrogacy is another issue although all I would care about is that a child has loving parents. Being gay does not make you a bad parent and statictics have shown that they tend to raise heterosexual children anyway (not that that matters anyway)
    I respect your opinion and am looking forward to how you view the points I made

    Cheers
     
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  8. uca

    uca Well-Known Member

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    #68
    The % will increase as more (are allowed to) come out in the open.
     
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    #69

    I agree and understand these facts. The thing I do not like is the "normalization" of perverted behavior. I truly believe some are born "gay" and can do nothing about their sexual preference, but these people should obstain from sexual activity. The whole purpose of sexual activity is to propogate the human race, by cheating nature, they seem to risk life itself for a few moments of twisted pleasure. I also believe a vast majority "think" they are gay because of social circumstances. For instance, in Madison, WI where I grew up, they have "gay councilers" in middle school. This to me is the "gay" agenda. They take confused 11-12 year old kids and convince them they are gay. Or at least that is the way it seems to me. The whole thing to me is just very disturbing. I really don't see much difference between homosexual behaviour and beastiality. Again, these are just my personal views.
     
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    uca Well-Known Member

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    Well that's interesting, hard to believe it actually is that way and I'd love to have some first hand experience, but it's very interesting.

    Does anybody have the results of test and studies about genetics linked to homosexuality. I really want to find out FOR SURE how that works, as it can't be considered natural, or we would not be here today...
     
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    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    #71
    How are they risking their lives?
     
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    HIV, Gonnarhea, Numerous other diseases.
     
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    #73
    I'm not sure that there was a time when it wasn't allowed in the past 30 years or so. But what is higher is the percentage of those who are both ways and then turn gay all the way lateron in life. A lot of opinions have to do with different beliefs such as whether you believe it's a sin, genetic etc.

    The opinions on marriage will really depend on that. people who believe it isn't genetic, they want a cure. Those who believe it's a sin, of course don't like the behaviour either. btw according to the bible Jesus said "love the sinner, hate the sin" and having sex out of wedlock in general is a sin as well.
     
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    uca Well-Known Member

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    That would really get on my nerves. It should come out naturally, not by being brainwashed when so young.

    I'm sure it works in some cases.

    But maybe if society accepts them, or tolerates them rather, they won't need that sort of proselitism to make their side stronger towards a society that still has problems with homosexuality.
     
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    Where does it say that?? :confused:
     
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    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    #76

    That's not different than straight people having sex though.

    NEWSFLASH: Not all people have sex solely to "propogate the human race"! In fact, most don't!

    I know I haven't been for the past 15 years or so. :D
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    lol, yeah me to and even the one time I did we weren't trying for it :D
     
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    #78
    lol, i'll have to agree with these two men above. not all people are having sex solely for procreation.. pleasure, love, passion, lust... whatever is all part of human nature. and in the real world, gay couples would want to celebrate their love for each other through marriage like any straight couple. so i'm not really bothered by legalization of gay marriage. anyway it's just my opinion. :D:D
     
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    Sorry Henny, I just don't see the disease - homosexuality link...If heterosexuals (especially young ones) weren't spreading diseases in growing numbers I *might* start to see your point but the fact is that the homosexual community is protecting itself more and more due to so much education and activism while the heterosexual community is on a downward spiral. Its not like these things will go away if everyone turned heterosexual..In fact statitics seem to point to the fact they would go up.

    Its that thought among young people that things like HIV are still a "gay disease" that cause those numbers to rise. I hate to break it to you but it isn't gay people spreading diseases anymore...Its the 15 year old on your street who feels invincible and that they won't get it.

    Heterosexuals need to take a hard look at this themselves before preaching to the gay community

    From a historical perspective that was true to maintain your land, etc but that is no longer true anymore...As a culture their is no shortage of people so you are not going to see a "doomsday" scenerio as you predict...Back to heterosexuals...more and more couples are electing not to have children and use contraception...Should their be laws to stop this?

    From a biblical perspective...that opens up another debate...You could argue that the Catholic Church's ban of contraception and belief in propogation was for their own survival....A good Catholic family with 10 kids means full pews.
     
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    #80
    Especially considering gays make up just 1-3% of the population.
     
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