Gay Marriage: Should It Be Allowed?

Uh, no, this guy isn't obsessed with sodomy, or anything. Uh, brother, I don't believe any gay has "shoved" anything in my face. Most that I have known do the craziest thing I have ever seen. Exist, as who and what they are, like you, like me.

Now, much of sex isn't "natural," but pleasurable for the folks who enjoy it. Is all sex outside procreation "prohibited?"

You never answered - what is to be done with 1/2 the gay population - lesbians. No sodomy, therefore no "shoving it in everyone's face." Are they to be "in the fold?" How about straight couples who engage in sodomy. No? Yes? Gotta consult your Owner's Handbook of Divine Judgment?

Ridiculous.

You never answered to your own hypocrisy:

Your beloved term, "Sodomites," for instance. Please provide where in the New Testament this is referred to?

Nor have you, in all your posts here, ever dealt with the fact that AIDS affects all human beings, gay and straight alike.

 

For now I will stick with the male gay population: Accepting gay people doesn't mean I have to agree with the promotion of their habits and impacts on population. That is why folks like myself keep telling you there is a better way, there is hope and you can be free from this horrible practices which destroy not only your bodies but the life of your parents, your children and friends. Stop believing in lies, you can and you have the power to change. But at the end of the day it's all about choice. You choose what you do. You don't find yourself accidentally with someone else's penis up your anus or viceversa. You make a conscious decision to have gay sex. Conscious comes from two greek words which mean with knowledge. So if you are capable of deciding where you insert it, you most certainly can choose where NOT to insert it (or have it inserted). Seems pretty basic to me.

And as for me not answering about "the WHOLE Bible" you need to read it says God will make a NEW COVENANT. New means something gets changed and you keep posting the things that have changed. So in the New Testament I read that "homosexuals (same deal as sodomites)" will NOT enter the kingdom of God. Also in the NEW COVENANT it says there is no longer need to sacrifice animals. And yet some commandments remain unchanged even in the New Testament.

 

"For now you'll stick with the gay male population." Big of you. But I thought this was a cut and dried answer, a "simple answer?" Isn't clear, from your Owner's Handbook of Divine Judgment?

You "consciously choose" where to put the little fella, wherever it's put. Last time I checked with my wife, anyway. And uh, bro, I'm straight, but thanks for the tips. You see, while I'm straight, I just am not that interested in the personal habits of other folks. What they wish to do is their damn business. Unless I wish to obsess on it. In which case I suppose I'd have to ask myself why I obsess on their practices.

Nice try on the last paragraph. But you failed. You said out of one side of your mouth that you rely on the WHOLE bible, and out of the other you condemn someone for doing just that, as you are of the New Testament or "new covenant."

Here, part of your "New Covenant." Or is this not part of the whole you are to adhere to, off the whole you are...aren't (I can't remember) to adhere to?

Are you to ignore your Christ, then?

 

I voted no. Not because I hate them but because Gays are not naturals, they just make other feel sorry about then. So we shouldn't promote these activity but shouldn't hate them nor prevent them live together either.

 

You still don't understand the word NEW do you? NEW means NOT old. I am not condemning anyone. He who does not believe is ALREADY condemned.

My "obsession" is not with "their practices" but with their salvation, which they CAN achieve because is in their power. Same choice they make when they decide to go for it, is the same choice they can make whether or not to get saved. It is a CHOICE.

 

And I have to conclude you don't have an ounce of logic, since you've repeatedly hung yourself here with your own rope, and yet you apparently can't even see it; and when presented with the option to stand by your own words, you run. Sad, truly. Perhaps some day you'll be better graced.

All the best.

 

Uh Oh, proteindude, are you also a religious extremist?

 

I don't know what you call an extremist but I sure am not one. I am a simple believer in a book that withstood the test of time. I am a believer of the most attacked book throughout history. A book that is still the most influential book EVER written. I like being on the winning side. This book withstood ALL arguments thrown against it. So if I am going to choose between THE MOST influential book and between LESS influential books, the choice is clear for me. I like being on the side with the MOST.

 

I call a religious extremist a person who has a religious faith and showing any kind of discrimination to another person who has not the same belief.

example of a religious extremist: a person who believe that a non believer is already comdened. Or a person who believe that a person who does not believe in the same God is a infidel and deserve death.

There more example of course...more kinds of extremism..

 

All I can say is "Yuck!"

 

even i hate it, but i guess its some one's willingness, let some one marry whom they want.

 

I think that being gay is just like being mentally ill and letting gay people marry is like saying it's ok.

 

well i know, honestly i can't think why a guy would go against the nature, i have no clue how can man get attracted with man, well point is about them being tied up and its very few of the overall population.

 

I don't understand why people can be attracted to overweight people, that disgusts me... But still, fatties should be allowed to marry, just as gays should...

 

one more thing i wonder is how would reproduction process continue if a guy is attached to guy.

 

You're trying to throw two separate things together. Yes I believe ONLY Christians will make it to heaven (no question about it).

Just because you are not a Christian I don't think you deserve death. I am simply warning you that sin is the most expensive thing in the whole Universe. If your sin is not forgiven you will have a whole eternity to pay for it.

Now, the existence of hell is not dependant on what gay people think.

Let me make this CLEAR: you have a free choice and you can choose to live a homosexual lifestyle. You should be allowed to live your homosexual lifestyle. But you should not expect the majority of society to accept and condone homosexual lifestyle. Democracy means the majority (heterosexuals) decides. In communism it is the minority (the elite few) that decide what the majority (the masses) should accept. So if the polls show: no marriage for homosexuals I think the majority should decide, not the minority.

 

I've noticed throughout your posts, that you always seem to pick sides on the basis of 'the most'.
In your earlier posts, you said that you put your trust into Jesus because you think he THE MOST influential man up until this day - and you will not put your trust on anyone else.
Now you say the same thing about the book.
It all comes down to "If a vast majority of people decides to kill themselves by jumping from the roof, i'll play along too", never to think that this vast majority might be a bunch of fools.

 

It actually comes down to being on the winning side. Jesus is still the most influential person of all time. When you can influence more people and show you are superior I will THEN listen to you. Until THEN I will continue to go with the winner. Now, a Korean proverb ( a non Christian one): If you think the whole world has gone crazy and you think you're the only sane person left, think again.

 

which brings us to the topic of gay adoption ...

 

that is a sure possiblity, would debate on that on another thread, but to my mind the population of gays is not that big that we are debating abt them getting married, anyone a gay here ?