Gay Marriage: Should It Be Allowed?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by melbel, Jul 6, 2007.

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Should gay marriage be allowed?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

    167 vote(s)
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  1. tarponkeith

    tarponkeith Well-Known Member

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    #321
    What are you talking about, boundaries? You mean the limits of who should be able to, and who shouldn't be able to get married? For a long time african-american's couldn't get married; was that fair?
     
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  2. ncz_nate

    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    #322
    so you're saying that in fact there is no boundaries? well that just about answers my question, i'd say i have this whole thing wrapped up now.
     
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  3. tarponkeith

    tarponkeith Well-Known Member

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    #323

    Wikipedia says:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage
     
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  4. ncz_nate

    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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  5. tarponkeith

    tarponkeith Well-Known Member

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    #325
    Exactly...

    Some times I see EXTREMELY overweight people at fast food joints... And it disgusts me... I would have no problem with them getting married...
     
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  6. ncz_nate

    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    #326
    this isn't an issue of disgust.
     
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    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    #327
    well congrats everybody, throughout the slander and spin, there was no clear definition of what marriage really is. i'm not trying to get up in your face with this, and i'm not gonna make this politics, all i'm looking for is the truth.

    when you try to criticize and mock me on this issue, it doesn't matter because you cannot answer my direct question. no i don't hate gays, no i'm not afraid, i just wanna know where the boundaries are. it's the exact same thing as our borders. there is no bottom line with people on the other side.

    you are no super-intelligent being like those of you think you are that wanna tear me down for my beliefs. if you can't understand the theme of the debate, then just stop posting.
     
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  8. tarponkeith

    tarponkeith Well-Known Member

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    #328
    So, in your opinion, what's the issue?

    Why not let gay couples get hitched?
     
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    #329
    If that's not the issue what is your issue with it? Religion? what all your taking about is boundaries. what is your defintion of marrage then? and where did you come up with it from?


    Oh and being one of the few gays in this topic i don't want anything like gay marrage anyway leave that to the straight people who can screw it up on there own. Just give me and my partner the same rights as you and call it what ever you want and I'll be happy.
     
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    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    #330
    read the previous pages. why not let them marry? why let them marry? i've been asking for the boundaries of marriage. noone has answered it. if you don't have it, don't bother posting.
     
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    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    #331
    already answered the first question. now the 2nd question is interesting.. you are correct, straight people have done a great job at screwing it up on their own. however i do believe that it should be allowed that 2 gays can get together and have the same benefits as straight people, but it is still not marriage.
     
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    selltrib Peon

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    #332
    woohoo we have agreed on something. :D Give us the same rights and i'll be happy call it what ever the you want. I really don't care. I just want the law backing us if we need it.
     
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    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    #333
    well i'm all for that. like i said, i don't have anything against gays and do not care what people do "in their bedroom". but marriage is between a man and a woman. IF it isn't between a man and a woman, then it is between ANYTHING. not just humans. for if it were, there would be said boundaries.

    they should be given the same rights, i've never disputed that one.
     
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    #334
    Well, I believe the boundaries are easy to draw: a marriage should be between two beings having a minimum intellectual, moral and psychologic knowledge to understand the love and happyness that they can receive from each other. Well...at least IMO...
     
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    #335
    Yes, to be sure.

    Please don't add lip service to your already mounting hypocrisy.
     
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    #336
    Nice Find!!! mmmmmm
    :mad:
     
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    #337
    Our friend has had his "boundary" for quite some time; he just cannot accept the concept.

     
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    #338
    i'm gonna have to go with no because then there would be big gay weddings and lots of people would get grossed out when the groom kisses the groom. And when they talk about where they're gonna go on there honeymoon i could see people just suddenly going into convulsions and vomiting all over the place. I think that even most good friends would in their minds, not want to attend the gay wedding.

    I think that no matter how far people say things come along with gay issues, there will always be people, religious or not, that are not accepting of it because its is simply queer, which means strange, or not natural.

    I don't think chistianity is really a factor. Homosexuality in the bible is simply a form of sexual immorality, no different then any other sexual immorality. Yes, in culture it has bigger social affects, but in terms of being sinful, its no different then a man or a woman not being monogamaus (spcheck) or a man or a woman wanting to sleep with all kinds of different people. If you really wanted to keep marriage sacred according to christianity, you would make it illegal for two non believers to be married. So, it just ends up making things look stupid from a christian perspective because most christians don't even know why the bible says homosexuality is sinful. They just say that "homosexuality is a sin" like sins are separated out as a set of rules. Thats completely wrong, sin is any choice apart from what appears to be God's will for you.

    If a person is not a christian, than christians shouldn't care i don't think about whether or not they should be allowed to marry. In all actuality a christian should be like, okay, duh, this person doesn't regard God as authority in there life and probably wont anyways, what difference does it make if they get married as gay or straight. Gay or straight, the bible points out that if your not a christian your in trouble, doesn't matter if your Gay married or straight married, if you don't regard Jesus Christ as lord of your life, your in trouble.

    in the end it doesn't make a difference if you're a gay non chrisitan or a straight non christian, according to the bible, both are the same.

    Basically what im trying to say is that from a christian standpoint, keeping gay marriage out doesn't keep marriage sacred. Marriage is absolutely already off track from what the bible says it should be. well, viewing it as a statistic in the US it is, i guess marriage is individual when it comes down to it.
     
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    #339
    I find straight people disgusting as well but hey that's just my personal views.
    There are many studies out there that say kids brought up in a gay family are just as normal as kids brought up by straight couples.

    And hey lets face it, it's always the straight couples who breed serial killers!
     
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    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    #340
    hey dumbass, read my post when i came back from all the other dumb f*ckheads like yourself that went on and on about that post. again you failed at trying to make me look bad. i'm tired of your sorry liberal ass trolling this thread. you failed at this debate, go home, and cry yourself to sleep next to your "wife".
     
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