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This thread certainly has wandered off the topic of homosexuality in the animal kingdom.

Regardless of whatever anthonycea and his fan boi Hellvetti might claim, I am not even a Christian.

FoxNews succeeds because it is one of the very few news organizations which does not push a far left political agenda. FoxNews is the small player which balances the overwhelming dominance of media by the left. And yet, those people cannot stop complaining because there is one voice in the media which they don't control. The left simply cannot stand dissenting views.

Bushranger, your characterization of left and right is straight Marxist disinformation and is far behind the times. It is more accurate now to say that right is "for the individual citizen" and left is "for the bureaucrats and politicians."

 

Will, sorry for going off topic but Obamanation does get up my nose haha. I'd never even heard of left, right, etc. just 3 years ago, I just knew the Liberal Party here were inherrently bad, using lies, misinformation, and laws openly in order to acheive their aims, and their aims were only all about how much richer they can make the rich and how much they can kick the dole-bludgers and pensioners down.

Liberals here = Republicans there.

John Howard / George Bush - Like John Howard, a little man with big boy syndrome takes the world to war in order to get more oil.

There's simply no charity in these people, so my characterization was 100% my assesssment just from watching these people in the last 20 years here that I gave my assessment on, not some book theory, and I do stand by my words.

Obamanation fits that bill completely, he's just a sanctimonious fool that knows all, but in reality, has no idea he's the one that's burning (in his own hell) right now. Makes me feel sad for him, in between the anger lol.

He cries for freedom in one hand and doesn't give a shit who he rolls over to get it. Has no idea on charity, it's something that doesn't enter his equations.

I really have no idea how people like him can claim to be God fearing, or even believe, that there's a God that actually likes his attitude. If there was a God, the book would have burnt in his hands.

Can you remember when he first joined? How he came in claiming to be the leftist person anyone could imagine, he was so left he made all lefties look stupid? Kinda like SP does to Muslims. He said he loved Obama & loved charity etc. only to come out spewing his sanctimonous bile? He's full of tricks and shows exactly what I mean by right-wing retards. Sorry for taking it so far off topic.

 

Bushranger how old are you ? I'm srsly having doubts about your maturity . I know you're not a genius but for God's sake man have some civility . You're embarrassing yourself whit this type of behavior . I still believe that you're trying to have a nice augmented polemic but ATM it would appear your goal is to troll .

 

Much older and much wiser than you, child. One day you will grow up too.

 

Your much older and wiser then me and you've heard about left and right only 3 years ago ? Dude srsly . It's no shame to post your age .

 

In the U.S., the liberals have no sense of charity. Charity is giving your own money. Instead, they pass laws which tax working individuals and use that money to buy votes from people who don't contribute to society, or they funnel it to big corporations in return for campaign contributions.

Real charity is dominated by the right wing.

Here's a sorting of the Generosity Index sorted by political affiliation:

 

Yes, as a child, like yourself now, I worked out pollies were a waste of time and never involved myself or paid attention to it for a long time, until Bush/Howard/Blair took us into a war for oil against the wishes of most of us (Australians). Then I took a real look at politics and it was then I found out there was a left and a right in each party. So now you bring it up, it was back in 2001, not the 2007 I flippantly mentioned earlier. Is that ok with you?

 

I'd say the Health Care bill is charity, the Repubs are dead against that.

Couldn't make sense out of the link, guess I would need to know which states were left & right to understand that in the context we're discussing.

 

You mean in a war against terrorist and AFAIK the Aussie troops came voluntarily not forced in there . Quite discrepancy you are Bush , 2007 became 2001 , you called me an idiot then you +rep me , you say you adopted kids but hide your age even thou this nickname you have is next to impossible to link to your persona , you trow around insults in a polemic and you seem to see enemies everywhere . Who's hunting you ?

If the Healthcare system is overstressed and collapses it will be anything but charity . I don't like the US healtcare system but ATM it's anything bt time for such a major change .

 

No, there were no terrorists in Iraq. It was oil.

Aussie troops, just like American troops do what the boss tell them to do. They're doing their job and I don't blame them for being there.

2001/2007: forgive me, i'm old & years go by much quicker than we remember.

I repped you because your comment was funny, I've done it for others too, don't feel special. I hold no grudges and am here mainly because i'm bored with work at the time. Much of what I say is rhetoric just for the sake of conversation.

Only see enemies when they're enemies. I have many friends too.

Interpol? Asio? Republicans? Liberals...? No idea but in this day there's probably at least 100 people tracking me.......and you.

I never said i ADOPTED kids, I said I HAVE kids (now adults).

 

The health care bill is definitely not charity. Charity would be the liberals digging into their own pockets to give out money. Digging into someone else's pocket isn't charity -- it's theft.

Red == right; Blue == left.

 

You're not asked to be born. Often it's the parents because they're doing their bit 'for the country'. I think in today's society you should always have a guaranteed roof over your head and excellent health care when needed, all the way through your entire life. Get that bit right and I will 100% agree with the rest of capitalism at its finest. It's the lack of these two things that's creating an even bigger divide between the rich & poor.

I've been through a huge operation. I saw that they're charging $16.00 for a bottle of salt water (saline). The sorbelene is over $25 a jar, gauzes & bandaids are ten times supermarket prices etc., because medical 'corporations', already receiving billions for R&D, can charge phenomenal fees for 'medical' products.

That's why healthcare is expensive. Here at least it's the government carrying the cost of that but there (USA) you just have to die if you can't afford to see a doctor.

On the other hand, if everybody was given a million dollars at birth and then set free to do what they wanted with it, this could be heaven on earth. We all start out with the same chances and may be able to enjoy life from the start instead of struggling to make some sort of life for ourselves.

We could all be doing what we wanted to do instead of stuck in a job we detest in order to pay our way through this thing called life in order to get by. I think that too plays a big part of why the world's fucked up in many ways, because there's so many people having to do things they don't like in order to simply pay their bills.

 

K, I didn't see colours there, maybe I need active scripting to see them, I will try that now thanks.

Will.Spencer, do you think the government gets ANY money it deserves? - What about mining taxes where they're taking your countries resources and making a huge profit from that, do you consider that stealing from a mining company? What about a government owned company, paid for by the government but makes a shitload of money? Whose money is that to play with?

EDIT: I rechecked but still no colours but blue (left), i'm sure that's not what you're seeing.

 

Sorry but that post shows lack of knowledge of simple economics on your part.

 

True, I never claimed to be master of anything. I was just musing, not saying that's the only road to take, but I can't see why that wouldn't work given the right attitudes. It's all created from nothing anyway.

I see money's just a way of swapping goods. So if everyone started with a level playing field (we do now sort of, but the level is 0) and you were given enough money to survive your lifetime in humble enough living-standard quarters and enough food for life, up front, you could do wonders.

If you did well with your investment, start a company, invest in gold, whatever, you make more and better yourself, just like now, but if not, and you lose it all, then you would have to work for someone else and build it up again.

 

If everyone started with a million, the million would be worth zero, and so would be the millions of those who earned it.

 

Playing it out a little more. Say we started saving for that system today. In 18 years from now we start paying every person born 1 million dollars up front, you still have the rest of us to do the work, for now.

Give everyone born a million to start with (arbitrary figure, raised in line with cpi). If you go through the school system, you earn credits towards your million and it's then given to you at 18yo (arbitrary again). That's all you're ever given by any government, from then on they expect to get a tax on what you earn from that, just like now. You can decide whether to get a job and earn more or use your money to 'follow your dream'. You start with a 'chance'.

Everyone else has a million so prices go up (I guess that's what you're saying?). Bread corporation now says $50 a loaf (free market allows that). Along comes someone who actually loves baking and would do it for free (now armed with enough money to start a proper business), can do much cheaper and it's back to cheap again, and, the bread will be nicer.

I think things would get cheaper as more and more people switch to stuff they want to do, our thoughts won't be all about how much more money we can make but more about what we can do for others to fill in our time.

I wonder how long bushonomics would last?

 

I'm feeling the love man, I'm feeling the love. I spoke as a leftist because people tend to block out words that don't come from someone in their own camp. I could have spoken as a guy from the center or the right calling the left an embarrassment, and you would have shrugged and said "whatever". Glad you were able to observe and absorb just how ridiculous the left has become.

Thats what you say now, but the "Education is a right" people are already marching in the streets. My money says you will soon add additional "guarantees" the government should be providing, because there is no end to want.

And then, as if on queue, you ask for more. A million dollars per person? You seriously need to educate yourself a bit on the charitable topics you seem to care about. Outside of the flaws Helvetti shot in your proposal, study after study has shown that "money for nothing" usually harms the very people it is meant to help, as well as the economy on the whole.

To your questions about Will's charitable giving links, the states in the image you posted are all dominated by conservatives, mostly religious conservatives. Study after study shows poor religious conservative people in the US are by far and away the biggest donors to charity, with atheist liberal middle class people being the least giving. Even the rich give more as a percentage, though in fairness, there are large tax incentives.

Wise words, truly. If we give every student a C or higher, C would just become the new F. Surprisingly, some people have a very difficult time with that concept. You may yet break free of your Marxist label.

 

I ran into an example of this:

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