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G Sitemaps - Host Affiliation Suicide?

Discussion in 'Google Sitemaps' started by T0PS3O, Jul 1, 2005.

  1. #1
    So you have a Google account and have set up these XML sitemaps of all your sites. Great! Google downloads them and crawls them regularly.
    SEMrush
    Because you're a kick-ass SEO you made sure you have all sites on separate IP C-class blocks and reduced interlinking to avoid the dreaded host affiliation filter. Some call it the 'same site penalty'.

    But now your handing them over a list of all your sites in your Google Account. So they know exactly which sites are from the same host, which ones are affiliated and which links to discount.

    What do you think? Reason to not dump all sitemaps into one account? Or do they know which site is by whom anyway (Whois etc.) so don't worry?
     
    T0PS3O, Jul 1, 2005 IP
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  2. Dominic

    Dominic Well-Known Member

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    I agree twas my first reaction (always slow to trust).
     
    Dominic, Jul 1, 2005 IP
  3. Infiniterb

    Infiniterb Well-Known Member

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    Wouldn't that be pretty evil of them to do such a thing?
     
    Infiniterb, Jul 1, 2005 IP
  4. T0PS3O

    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    #4
    Maybe. But pretty clever as well. Let people bring you data so you don't have to utilize any resources to go get them.
     
    T0PS3O, Jul 1, 2005 IP
  5. SEbasic

    SEbasic Peon

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    #5
    You'd have to be a complete f**king moron to give them a list of all your sites IMO.
     
    SEbasic, Jul 1, 2005 IP
  6. T0PS3O

    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    I was literally just about to key in all my other sitemaps when a big red light started flashing in my mind. Hang on a second!

    I think I'll skip on adding the other sites. They're all well indexed anyway.
     
    T0PS3O, Jul 1, 2005 IP
  7. SEbasic

    SEbasic Peon

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    I was willing for you not to press the submit button mate ;)
     
    SEbasic, Jul 1, 2005 IP
  8. rustybrick

    rustybrick User ID 3

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    Use separate accounts for each site... Am I missing something?
     
    rustybrick, Jul 1, 2005 IP
  9. sji2671

    sji2671 Self Made Mind

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    I decided against using the service as I am crawled regularly anyway, it's certainly food for thought and IMO not worth the risk.
     
    sji2671, Jul 1, 2005 IP
  10. mopacfan

    mopacfan Peon

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    yea, I'm not making the connection here. What are they going to get from a sitemap they won't get otherwise?
     
    mopacfan, Jul 1, 2005 IP
  11. ziandra

    ziandra Well-Known Member

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    #11
    Lotsa freemail accounts out there so use separate ones if you are concerned. Also, be sure to use an anonomizer service so they can't track it back to your computer. That and wipe your cookies between submissions.

    Oh, and don't forget the tinfoil hat. :eek:
     
    ziandra, Jul 1, 2005 IP
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  12. pilky

    pilky Active Member

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    Does an adsense account not link sites anyway?
     
    pilky, Jul 1, 2005 IP
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    stephfoster Well-Known Member

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    I would think so, but not everyone runs AdSense.
     
    stephfoster, Jul 1, 2005 IP
  14. T0PS3O

    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    #14
    I thought they weren't too happy about us doing that.
     
    T0PS3O, Jul 2, 2005 IP
  15. T0PS3O

    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    #15
    Yeah if you show your AdSense with same Pub-ID on all your sites then you've linked them up for them as well.
     
    T0PS3O, Jul 2, 2005 IP
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    mizt Active Member

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    #16
    Good point.
     
    mizt, Jul 2, 2005 IP
  17. Googles76

    Googles76 Peon

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    Yeh, same here, I don't understand the problem here? Maybe someone can explain without the SEO mambo-jambo? Are you saying you have sites so similar that they would stop crawling some of them if they found out the sites are owned by the same person?:confused:
     
    Googles76, Jul 4, 2005 IP
  18. SEbasic

    SEbasic Peon

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    The point for me, is that this is just about the easiest way for google to get confirmation that you are the owner/webmaster of every one of these sites...

    I don't always use 100% "white hat" (I hate that phrase) seo tactics....

    I can't risk a network of sites being flagged - and this just makes it easier for google to know that the sites are part of the same network...

    Hey, this is just the way I do things - By all means, open 100 google accounts and submit site maps using each one... :rolleyes:
     
    SEbasic, Jul 4, 2005 IP
  19. T0PS3O

    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    But then they'll noticed 100 accounts opened by the same IP/User Profile (I mean GeoLocation+IP+UserAgent+Browser etc.).

    Googles76, we're not talking duplicates here. Just the fact that Google finds out you are the webmaster of that group of N sites. In the relevant whitepapers they already mentioned discounting linking between host affiliated sites like that. That's what we're trying to prevent.

    Some people also try and rank for the same KW with multiple sites. Once both sites are flagged as affiliated by host, only one can rank for that phrase, they are pretty much regarded as 1 document then.
     
    T0PS3O, Jul 4, 2005 IP
  20. SEbasic

    SEbasic Peon

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    #20
    I wish sarcasm was easier to portray on forums...

    I'll add a rolleyes....
     
    SEbasic, Jul 4, 2005 IP