Future of Iraq: The spOILS of war

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  1. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #101
    Your link says this:

    "Dorgan's bill -- cosponsored by 17 Democrats and called the Honest Leadership and Accountability in Contracting Act of 2006 -- was tabled by a roll call vote of 55-43, effectively rejecting the amendment."

    The Senates website says this about the bill:

    "Statement of Purpose: To improve Federal contracting and procurement by eliminating fraud and abuse and improving competition in contracting and procurement and by enhancing administration of Federal contracting personnel."

    Your boy sKerry didn't even vote!!!
    Furthermore, this was just an attempt by the Dems to grow the gov. bigger by ENHANCING ADMINISTRATION. In other words, hiring more people so that more red tape is there and more things take longer to do. Its a simple issue, as the democrats try to pull this all the time. Your source (alternet) then took the issue and spun it to their liking against halliburton. Again, another democratic move. You guys love to spin stuff to your liking...
     
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    #103
    No where in the bill did it mention halliburton??? Explain to me then how this bill is about halliburton and not about growing big govt. (which the Dems like you love to do). FREE HEALTH INSURANCE FOR ALL!!!!! HIGHER TAXES!!! RAISE THE MINIMUM WAGE!!! NO REASON TO WORK, THE GOVT. WILL GIVE YOU EVERYTHING. Whether it is terrorism or the people, dems love to be the appeasers. No wonder you fit in so well.
     
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    #104
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    #105
    dude, why don't you quit looking at your hero Falwell and answer the questions...where in the bill did it mention halliburton? Explain how this bill is about halliburton and not big govt?
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #106
    Do you understand that refineries don't produce oil, they just process the oil, don't you? :rolleyes:

    Don't you think it is little stupid to claim that war did not effect the gasoline price when it caused the price of raw oil to increase by 300% which is used by refineries to produce the gasoline? :rolleyes:

    it is a simple math that even republicans should be able to understand. If you buy a barrel of oil for $20 and it cost you $5 to refine and you sell it for $30 then you have made $5 profit (30-20-5). If you buy the oil barrel for $65 and it cost you $5 to process and you still want to make $5 profit then you have to sell it for $75 (65+5+5). $75 is much bigger number than $30. I hope you can understand this now. ;)
     
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    #107
    Gworld, don't be too hard on these guys, you can't be all that smart to defend Cheney and Bush in the first place, these guys even do it after the Republicans are completely disgraced and rejected by the Citizens of America in the mid term elections.

    You figure they would be smart enough to hide under a rock or something since 75% of the people think they are out of their minds! :D
     
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    #108
    The problem is that your equation doesn't take into account INFLATION...It may have cost 5$ to refine a barrel of oil, but the price will not stay there. Also, you can blame Katrina for most of the jump...it took out almost all the rigs in the gulf that the US relies on...Refineries can only refine (not produce) oil at their fastest rate. With both oil rigs and Refineries shut down due to Katrina, the price of a gallon spiked... Did you know that after 9/11 the price of gas actually came down, by .35$ /gallon? You probably didn't, since you don't know what you are talking about or how gas prices work. Here, I have some reading material for you... http://money.howstuffworks.com/gas-price.htm Also, if you take into account inflation, in 2004 we were paying the same as we were in 1960...the link explains it all...
     
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    #109
    First 35% disapproval, then 30%, now 75% hate republicans....HEY EVERYONE JUMP ON THE MAGIC BANDWAGON, AC MAKES STUFF UP!!!
     
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    #110
    Looks like you are the one who is lost here boy, you even suggest that war has nothing to do with the price of oil, man are you living in brainwashed delusion, you listen to a lot of RNC propaganda, you should join a few Republican Zealot forums, Will Spencer and GTech have a long list of them!
     
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    #111
    You obviously didn't read the article.... It quotes: "Oil prices are being pushed higher by rising global demand and worries that the world's limited supply cushion would not be adequate to offset a lengthy disruption to output in major producing countries, such as Iran or Nigeria. There are also concerns about the risks hurricanes pose to U.S. production." Figures, as usual, you have no idea what you are talking about.
     
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    #112
    Also AC, you never did answer my questions about the previous article you posted, Where does it talk about halliburton and not about trying to make big govt? Answer the question, or are you going to slide on it, AGAIN!!!
     
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    #113
    Welcome to the Republican Propagandists Hall of Shame Kid.

    Here is the headline from the article!

    Oil Prices Settle At Record High

    Mideast Violence, Geopolitics Push Oil Prices To Nearly $77 A Barrel


    You really think you can fool people with your lunacy, thanks for putting it in the record for the entire world to witness, GTech does the same every day!
     
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    #114
    Answer my question about your previous article you posted, this is now the 4th time I have asked and you continue to skirt the subject...I guess when you are male and wear a skirt we can expect that...and you know that headlines are thought up to be catchy just so people read them...come on now, you have to be smarter than that...
     
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    #115
    If you are too stupid to figure it out yourself you are not worth my time in educating you kid, good riddance!

    Your questions are lunacy, I have no interest in a dialog with you so you can garner attention for yourself and spam this forum as you have been doing!
     
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    #116
    Again dodging the question!!!! So much a democrap!!!! http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=2041591&postcount=201
     
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    #117
    What a blatant spammer you are kid, you must think you're the first one that pulled through here or something, and that people don't know it when they see one!
     
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    #118
    You don't know what are you talking about as usual, in my example I didn't talk about different years, so there is no inflation adjustment, I only changed one variable which was the price of oil barrel. Any 6 years old child can understand that $70 dollar a barrel is more expensive than $20 a barrel and you have to adjust the end consumer price to reflect the change in purchase price. It is equally stupid to claim that the change from $20 to $70 is purely result of inflation since it requires a 350% inflation rate in USA between 2003 to 2006 and no matter how stupid this administration actions are, nobody is claiming that they caused such a big inflation. :rolleyes:
     
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    #119

    Actually thats only in the US.
    Its 90-95% if you count the rest of the world.
     
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    #120
    He is too young to understand any reality or what is going on in the oil wars, fact is that higher oil prices cause inflation in the first place in more than one way.

    When oil prices go up the cost of doing business goes up too, so businesses must increase the cost of goods and services and this spirals throughout every sector of the economy since all of us are effected by this increase in the cost of doing business.

    Second, high oil prices leads to a weak dollar causing Americans to pay even more in real terms, it also causes the Federal Reserve to raise interest rates to fight inflation to protect the banking system so capital is not withdrawn by foreigners from our banking system.
     
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