Front-runner status McCain & Clinton

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  1. #1
    Well after Super Tuesday the end game looks like being

    John McCain

    and

    Hillary Clinton

    Clinton takes delegate-rich states

    Obama winning more states, but Clinton winning states with more delegates

    So it looks like this is how it will all end

    Comments
     
    britishguy, Feb 6, 2008 IP
  2. guru-seo

    guru-seo Peon

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    Hillary will become president and we become a socialist country. Big taxes and the dynasty of Bushes and Clintons continues, and the average dumbed down American works harder, longer for less. The elites control the masses and exploits the fuck out of them by making them consume more junk and we continue the course towards the NWO.
     
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    #3
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/23022314#23023234

    841-837 in obamas favor

    he won 14 of 22 states as well.

    at least 5 of the next 7 states, potentially all 7 since there caucus states are going to be his this week too.

    Obama also has 32 million dollars to her 13, how exactly is she a frontrunner?
     
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    I don't think it's reasonable to call Hillary the front runner anymore. At best for her it's a dead heat, more accurately Obama has a small lead and huge momentum.
     
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    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    #5
    Yeah. I think on the Democratic side it is way to tight to call. Hillary's big big lead from earlier times has been eviscerated. She and Barack are pretty much running neck and neck and he seems to have momentum on his side. I'd give him slight odds now.....but a campaign is long and subject to all sorts of changes. I think it is currently too close to call between Hillary and Obama.

    On the Republican side McCain has a strong lead.
     
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    guerilla Notable Member

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    McCain can't win any caucus or convention states. Most of the big primaries have passed, he's going to have a bugger of a time getting 1091 bound delegates.
     
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    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    And the counter to that is who is going to beat him?

    Huckabee seems to have a very distinctive and narrow popularity. Romney is facing an enormous amt of suspicion with regard to what he actually stands for and Paul is a small fringe candidate within the Republican primaries.

    I am confused by reading exit polls that give McCain significant if not always majority votes from those that voted for him and state they are either "strongly conservative" or "primarily concerned with the economy" Those two facets of decisions seem to fly in the face of how McCain is perceived either by Conservative commentators and/or the main stream press.

    Regardless he is getting the votes to date. I would suggest that his current conservative positions and various stances that run counter to typical Bushisms and religious/ultra conservative commentators ring true with a lot of the public voting in republican primaries.
     
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    guerilla Notable Member

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    #8
    McCain is going to be fought tooth and nail by Romney for the remaining states. Everyone except McCain has a stake in a brokered convention now.
     
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    #9
    I am always bewildered by this phenomena that USA seemed to love choosing the worse candidates for their presidents, I hope this time it won't be true........or am I the only one feeling this way?
     
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    #10
    You may see McCain cutting a deal with Huckabee
     
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    Shazz Prominent Member

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    #11
    Half the voting is over, its not looking so good :(
     
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    #12
    O.K. You may see McCain cutting a deal with Romney,
     
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    #13
    Or we may just see him cut the cheese?
     
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    britishguy Prominent Member

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    #14
    Shall we chuck Ron Paul into the mix just in case ;)
     
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    #15
    Romney has isolated himself from the pack. He's an outsider now, just like Paul.

    McCain, Giuliani and Huckabee clearly have a deal not to attack one another, and to support each other when they drop out. There is no love lost between Huckabee and Romney.
     
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    #16
    I think we'll see some things different now actually, guerilla. The reason is because legitimately, it is only between Huckabee and McCain. Huckabee will quickly begin to attack McCain on the hot topic as of lately... that he simply isn't conservative enough.
     
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    #17
    Obama will trump Clinton the 2nd by the end of all this :D
     
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    #18
    Hard to predict, Clinton has very good organization strengths to muster whatever left of the votes.

     
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    #19
    I really hope not, I might go as far to say that Obama is the democratic Ron Paul, but that might be pushing it. The clintions better not get the nomination, period.
     
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    #20
    I think Huckabee and McCain have an agreement to work together. This might be the end of the road, if they are going to pool their support.

    Frankly, a lot of evangelicals will not support McCain, so this is another bad turn of events for the GOP.

    McCain is almost as unpopular with the rank and file as Ron Paul is, he's just been able to pull bigger endorsements, and a larger chunk of the independent vote.
     
    guerilla, Feb 7, 2008 IP