From 3 sales in 67 hops to 0 sales in 297

Discussion in 'ClickBank' started by gocali2009, Jan 7, 2010.

  1. #1
    Should I be concerned?

    I made 3 sales of the same product in only 67 hops until December 20'th. Since then I have had 297 hops and no sales. 4 order form submits with no sales.

    I really don't get it. The articles that made the sales are still there. I have written a ton more, set up a page, commented on blogs and forums and I am even driving 10 hops a day with Yahoo PPC. Am I to believe this is simply natural variation? Yes, I know it's withing the limits of standard variation probably, but it just doesn't make any sense. I have sent traffic to that landing page in any possible way, direct, presell, yahoo answers, whatever and no more sales but 4 order submits? Oh yeah, my total sales for 10 products and 583 hops is ONE sale. This isn't junk traffic either. It's landing page and article marketing mostly.

    Am I getting screwed here by the vendor or Clickbank?

    How is everyone else doing?
     
    gocali2009, Jan 7, 2010 IP
  2. smile633

    smile633 Peon

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    I read the other day on dp that when a buyer contacts the vendor directly, even though you brought him there in the first place, you will loose out on the commission.
     
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  3. rickmci

    rickmci Active Member

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    10 sales 583 hops looks like a good conversion rate to me with ClickBank products. The product matters a lot but the ratio is about average for good traffic.
     
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  4. rammbhat

    rammbhat Active Member

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    oh god... not another screwed by cb thing... clickbank is legit.. they dont screw u over.. hops and sales dont come hand in had.. more hops only mean that you have more exposure to sales.. u can have 5 hops per day and all five can be sales and 1000 random un-targeted hops.. try getting targetted hops and you'll see higher numbers.. even then u cant be sure cos the visitor has to like the product enuf to BUY it! so be patient!
     
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  5. gocali2009

    gocali2009 Active Member

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    Hey,

    It's one sale in 583 hops.

    I am only worried because one particular product sold 3 times 67 hops and now sold no times in 300 hops.
     
    gocali2009, Jan 8, 2010 IP
  6. xrcv

    xrcv Peon

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    So, you had 3 sales and around 350 hops. That's normal, and the 300 last hops without a sale certainly isn't enough to draw any conclusion: you could very well make 5 more sales in the next 200 hops.
     
    xrcv, Jan 8, 2010 IP
  7. Joeh1

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    Clickbank don't mess with the figures. It could be that the first 3 sales were the freak results. You may have too many traffic sources so you can't tell what is working and what is not.
     
    Joeh1, Jan 8, 2010 IP
  8. Patchkaa

    Patchkaa Peon

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    Another noob CB affiliate thread!!
     
    Patchkaa, Jan 9, 2010 IP
  9. zupreme

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    You lucked out the first round (maybe because of the holiday season). Your new conversion rate is closer to reality.

    Get used to it and plan on seeing similar conversion rates going forward.
     
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  10. gocali2009

    gocali2009 Active Member

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    So, I didn't make any sales in 10 days and today I make 2 in one? Just coincidence right? Yeah, right. I've read about this sort of thing. Faulty Clickbank tracking probably.
     
    gocali2009, Jan 11, 2010 IP
  11. simplyjo

    simplyjo Well-Known Member

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    I haven't had any sales last few weeks, but then my efforts have went down to 0 too - I was hoping to get some long term sales from my good articles on eza , but that didn't work :(
     
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  12. rickmci

    rickmci Active Member

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    or in the next 20 hops. And yes I have seen that for real.
     
    rickmci, Jan 11, 2010 IP
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    3 sales in 67 hops is fantastically good, regardless of niche. 1 in 100 hops is about the norm.
     
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    J1218 Well-Known Member

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    I had something similar. I had 7 people click on my articles right after they were published a few weeks ago and 2 of them were sales. Since then I've had about 300 clicks and no sales. I'm not saying CB is scamming me or anything because I know they aren't but it does suck when you think you're getting really good conversion rates and then you get tons of hops and no sales from those articles.
     
    J1218, Jan 11, 2010 IP
  15. rickmci

    rickmci Active Member

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    A rule I learned to be true... 1000 hits to determin the real conversion ratio. It seams to be just about right ......
     
    rickmci, Jan 14, 2010 IP
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    dcristo Illustrious Member

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    #16
    sales fluctuations are very normal for cb products.

    nah, just paranoid marketers.
     
    Last edited: Jan 14, 2010
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  17. DarioMontesdeOca

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    #17
    I've had 194 unique visitors go directly to a sales letter on of my CB campaigns without generating a sale while I also had 32 unique visitors go to a different sales letter which generated one sale...

    It's funny sometimes. But I find if I keep driving traffic to different campaigns and to see which one's the highest converting, I'll stick to the higher converting one instead while looking for more.
     
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  18. r3dbar0n

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    #18
    I used to think the same thing, then I moved most of my products away from Clickbank and sales actually increased plus they're more consistent. Coincidence?
    Kind of a shame though cause I liked working with Clickbank, interacted with a lot of their staff via e-mail and met a lot of them in NY last August.

    But the bottom line is MY bottom line.
     
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  19. earnincome

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    #19
    Depending upon the product you are advertising, you get sales. It is not guaranteed that more hops will get more sales.
     
    earnincome, Jan 16, 2010 IP
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    Have you checked the traffic sources? I doubt those readers from Asia or Africa will buy the product. I think you can analyze the traffic and see where the buyers come from. Maybe most of the 297 come from Latin America.
     
    scheng1, Jan 17, 2010 IP