From $25/day to $100.00...How?

Discussion in 'AdSense' started by lingeriediva, Oct 11, 2005.

  1. #1
    Yes, get more traffic...

    But how. Do feeder sites make sense? Is there a fast way out of the sandbox?

    I am a dedicated site tweaker and happy to try new things; but right at the moment I seem to be stuck. Now, my niche means I can always get a traffic hit but the traffic I can get is very low grade as compared to natural search engine or backlinked traffic.

    Would the link exchange make sense - not that I ever seem to be able to get it to work.

    Suggestions are welcome.

    (Meanwhile, for those of you thinking of adding an Amazon product feed, save yourself a lot of time and take a look at http://www.associate-o-matic.com. I built a full on store in three hours. It's linked to my main blog or you can see it at http://lingeriedreams.info-fiend.com/shop.php. The best part of the deal is that you can either buy the software for $99.00 or get a funtioning version which diverts one in ten clicks to the developer...a good revenue model I suspect.
     
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  2. jlawrence

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    I've yet to find a fast way out of the sandbox.
    I'm experimenting with some older domains to see if they avoid the sandbox completely.

    I like the look of your amazon site - the urls need work though. But looking at other sites linked to from the associate site changing url is possible.
    Thanks for the link.
     
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    uca Well-Known Member

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    Hello and thank you for the link.

    Let me just ask you what was your option and why.

    Thanks!:)
     
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    uca Well-Known Member

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    Awfully sorry. double post!
     
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    How exactly do you define "getting out of the sandbox"?

    Is "getting out of the sandbox" just a matter of getting indexed by Google? or are there other factors involved?

    I got my site indexed by Google within 3 days if that's the case.
     
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    Check out thinkblings website, for a free Amazon software - seems like you wasted money!
     
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    My site was taken out of sandbox after just 3 weeks...you need lots of contetnt and I guess luck.
     
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    No, you can get indexed quite quickly with Google, as you've mentioned, but you won't get any PageRank assigned to your pages until they're out of the sandbox, which will affect your search engine positioning within Google's search results. If you're not getting traffic from Google then it may not matter much.
     
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  10. Eric Giguere

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    PageRank is just one factor that affects a page's position in the search index. You can be first in the index without any PageRank.
     
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    hmm, I've looked at think bling in the past and lets be honest the layout is crap. It's about as visually appealing as dmoz.
    Is the thinkblig script cusomizable - probably. How much work is involved ??
    Is $99 a lot to pay for scripts that can knock out something like his site in 3 hours - no.
    Can everyone program at the level required to customize the thinkbling scripts - no.
    So for some people (those without the programming skills and those without the time) the associate-o-matic script looks the biz.
     
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  12. bigcrags

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    lingeriediva - I'm at exactly the same stage as you, also looking to turn twenty-something a day into 100. I've sat and worked out a plan to add extra content pages every day on all my sites. Some sites I've planned one extra page or post ( I run some content sites and some blogs) and on others 3 or 4 pages per day. It's nothing excessive, perhaps amounting to a couple of hours work per day, but I'm convinced if I'm adding 70-100 posts/pages per week then traffic and clicks will follow. Also, all of these pages/posts contain unique content that I have written rather than recycled content.
    Anyway, that's my plan - I just hope I can stick to it.

    Also, I've never found a way to extract yourself from the Google sandbox. Just keep building the site and relying on MSN and Yahoo traffic and eventually the domain will mature enough and the inbound links to it will mature enough that you start to move back up the listings.
     
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  13. Bompa

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    Hey Chopster,

    That's a very good question, unfortunately, we'll get ten different answers if we ask ten different people.

    The clearest answer I've got so far is that the Google "sandbox" is a delay for new websites and this delay started this year.

    Funny thing is, there has always been a delay for all new websites to get into Google, it's called the periodic update. Not coincidentally, Google updates much less frequently now, (I think).

    But people love these buzz words. The more vague the buzz word, the more they love it. (Is there a shrink in the house?) hehe

    I'm no SEO expert, but I registered my last site on September 13th, 2005, (have the receipt to prove that), and it's #400 with Google today for it's main keywords.

    Being #400 is horrible, but my point is, "What the hell 'sandbox' are you people talking about?" hehe

    When I told this to some "sandbox" professors, one replied "the sandbox is just for certain competitive keywords" and another replied "it means your site will not rank well during the sandbox period".

    Sheesh, talk about flip-flopping and double gobbleygook.



    To the original poster:
    If you're making $25/day, you're doing damn well, but anyways...

    First get your site in the top 1,000 results, then work your way up the ladder.

    How?

    Backlinks from sites that have good PR and few other links.

    If you don't know where to start getting backlinks, you can't be too fussy so start with directories that do not require a reciprocal link from you. And remember, a link from a page having only a PR1 today could be a PR4 on the next update.


    That's the magic secret.


    Bompa
     
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  14. jlawrence

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    Sandbox effect as I see it:
    Your site seems to linger in the 300+ SERPs for your main keywords.
    Often you'll find that allinanchor results will be considerably higher.
    No matter how many links you point into the pages, you never seem to move much for your main keywords -- this is the sandbox effect.
    After a certain period (which seems to be 3->12+ months) depending on the competitiveness of the keywords, Google releases the site from whatever filters it is under and you'll find that it rapidly starts to climb the SERPs.
    This I think is what most people refer to as the sandbox effect.
     
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    Just a quick note on Associate-O-Matic; they have a "lite" option which I am using. This is free but one in ten clicks goes to the developer which seems both fair and a great way to test the software. If, in say a couple of months, I am seeing $5-10 a day in commissions I will upgrade by paying the $99.00.

    I have no doubt that the "sandbox" is real. On my earlier site I waited for five months and then, bang, out of the box and into the top pages of the SERPs.
     
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    the lite option would mean me working out my own mod_rewrite though - which looking at it would be a big headache. i think looking at it, $99 is a bargain. I pay more than that out for a handfull of links.
     
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  17. lingeriediva

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    Depending on where you are on the revenue/time continum the $99.00 looks like a deal. My own sense is that I want to see if it performs.

    You can switch the URLs on the categories so that you get URLs which look like this:

    http://lingeriedreams.info-fiend.com/shop.php?c=stockings&x=alluring_stockings

    Not perfect but not actually spider repellent.
     
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    Take a look at the plasma tv site that is linked to as a proper customer site. That has what I can real looking urls.
    I'm going to buy the scripts, and will happily report back here on what I think of them.
     
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    I always thought that PR has no connection to sandbox .
    It is only putting up the website in top / high search results .

    Regards
    Jeet
     
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    can you tell me how to make $25 a day.

    i will be satisfied for that, no need 100 bucks.

    thanks
     
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