Fresh site boost

Discussion in 'Google' started by fryman, Aug 9, 2004.

  1. #1
    I posted my question on another forum and didn't get any answers... I hope someone here can help me out.

    I built a few websites about 3 weeks ago. After a few days they were indexed by google. I got a few backlinks pointing to them, submitted to DMOZ, and decided to wait at least a month to start checking the ranks. Today I was bored, so I decided to do a quick check on one, and after only 2 weeks it is listed on position #23 for a keyword with 1,100,000 results, and position #2 for a keyword with 29,000 results.

    I have heard theories about Google giving a fresh site some good rankings for a while, and then sending it down to the sandbox for a few weeks. If this has happened to you, could you tell me how long did you have good rankings before you were sent down the SERPs? I am hoping I can avoid the sandbox and keep those good rankings.

    Thanks
     
    fryman, Aug 9, 2004 IP
  2. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #2
    After extensive data collection and analysis of over one dozen web sites over the last six months, I can state with certainty that I have no idea.

    No one really knows how Google operates internally. And, of course, Google continually tweaks their secret algorithms.

    It's like a game of "pin the tail on the donkey", where the donkey is drunk and running at full speed.

    Personally, I have not noticed the sandbox effect you are worrying about in many months.

    I am hoping for another variant of the sandbox theory, one where incoming links are dampened temporarily, but that variant can only help you. :)
     
    Will.Spencer, Aug 9, 2004 IP
  3. sarahk

    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    Here's another crazy example. Our misguided lotteries folk have decided that linking investment advisors and a lottery makes sense - hows that for an "authority" link. But then I don't gamble with $, just PR

    Anyway they have a crap page promoting their "front man" Bob Kingsman at http://www.investmentguru.co.nz/

    and I posted in a related forum: Bob Kingsman, Investment Guru

    Out of curiosity I did a search on the name:
    http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&q=%22bob+kingsman%22

    and there are only 4 listings, my post is #1 and the lottery site is #3

    If the sandbox is working then the lottery site should beat my post, shouldn't it?

    Sarah
     
    sarahk, Aug 9, 2004 IP
  4. Help Desk

    Help Desk Well-Known Member

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    I have posted new subdomains to ThinkBling.com in my Blogger blog and have seen them cached in 2 days.
     
    Help Desk, Aug 9, 2004 IP
  5. DarrenC

    DarrenC Peon

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    It's all theorys and ifs and buts.

    Stick to the real task at hand and that's increasing your links, providing a good service and website to users and/or clients.

    To much thought and time is put into theorys, until someone proves me different theres no such sandbox effect on new websites. In the last six months Ive designed 3 new websites, all been cached within days and never lost rankings or put into a "sandbox"

    I'm sure I'll get some responses to this quote, but sometimes I think SEO experts include theories so people like me get confused, panic and then go to them to pay for there services IMHO.

    Darren :D
     
    DarrenC, Aug 9, 2004 IP
  6. fryman

    fryman Kiss my rep

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    I agree with you 100%. I never pay atention to posts that say something like "I think this" or "I guess that"... I always ask for previous experiences about my problems. No use in getting posts that say "I think that the sandbox lasts 4.8 weeks and 48 minutes".

    A post like yours, saying "I have 3 sites, and no sandbox effect on them" are what I want to see. Experience is what helps SEOs, not those crazy myths and theories with no proof to back them up.
     
    fryman, Aug 10, 2004 IP
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    l234244 Peon

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    All I can say is I have a new site less than a month old and it has been well placed for 3 weeks out the 4 its been up and running.
     
    l234244, Aug 10, 2004 IP
  8. janecompersnews

    janecompersnews Well-Known Member

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    Fryman, I've just put two new sites up today, one of them is already ranking. Will you let us know if you do get hit by a 'sandbox effect'.

    Jane
     
    janecompersnews, Aug 12, 2004 IP
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    nacho45 Peon

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    I've stayed up in the rankings for several weeks before getting "sandboxed". It's anoying, but I guess it's a decent quality control policy.
     
    nacho45, Aug 12, 2004 IP
  10. radsoft

    radsoft Guest

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    My new sites never went up then came down - it always seems they come in low-down and stay low down for a long time. That's why I'm here looking for info.
     
    radsoft, Aug 13, 2004 IP
  11. T0PS3O

    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    How can you go down when you never go up? :confused:
     
    T0PS3O, Aug 13, 2004 IP
  12. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

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    I never liked the 'sandbox theory' per se. I look at it this way:

    1. google likes fresh material
    2. google puts fresh material up front
    3. after the freshness wears off it then has to compete just like the rest of the site.

    Nothing complex there, simply keep things fresh and optimize your site and get back links.
     
    debunked, Aug 13, 2004 IP
  13. T0PS3O

    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    Sandbox for new links is what I witness. Not so much the site itself. But as a result the site will be affected bacause of the lack of links/anchor text.
     
    T0PS3O, Aug 13, 2004 IP