Suggestion Fraud Prevention Rule

Discussion in 'Support & Feedback' started by ApocalypseXL, Aug 28, 2011.

  1. #1
    Since Shawn was kind enough to enable location checking I've seen a ton of people lying about their location . Out of the blue a lot of countries have a moved to the US and the UK , obviously this lie exist to deceive people and abuse trust . My suggestion is that the location field would be changed to a automatically display the country/continent from where the user is posting , if you don't like this then you can disable the location field from showing up.

    I suggest that this is coupled whit the banning of all proxys(or at least the public ones) . I believe that this two measures will cut down a lot of spam and potential fraud .

    Opinions please ?
     
    ApocalypseXL, Aug 28, 2011 IP
  2. MyVodaFone

    MyVodaFone Well-Known Member

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    So what do you propose about your own location E.U could be anywhere ?
     
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    Cucumba123 Well-Known Member

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    #3
    I agree, something that automatically sets the location of the user, just the country, not necessarily the region or city.
    But I think I'm already in a great place to gain the trust from everybody :rolleyes:
     
    Cucumba123, Aug 28, 2011 IP
  4. Digital_shubhi

    Digital_shubhi Illustrious Member

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    #4
    He means something else...

    Like many people from different countries change their location to USA just to get some work. (And when some buyer asks for a writer from native English country like USA, they apply there)
     
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  5. MyVodaFone

    MyVodaFone Well-Known Member

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    #5
    I know what he meant, however the OP is a hypocrite whilst his own location is not known... if he's trying to make a point, why does he leave questions about his own location.

    PS: I couldn't care less where his from, if I did have a job/request for him, I would base that decision on his overall forum reputation, not location or member status.
     
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    MyVodaFone, Aug 28, 2011 IP
  6. newbie191

    newbie191 Notable Member

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    #6
    E.U. isn't a country and looks like OP is himself a little sensitive about his own location. Now demanding everyone else should have their country names clearly visible makes him look like a hypocrite. :)
    I agree with the suggestion though. It will look nice. At kloxo official forum the flag of the country of each member appears with all their posts. It looks nice. But I don't think it would counter fraud in any way because as we know scammers come from all countries and regions.
    Whenever I buy or sell something here I do it based on the reputation and iTraders of those people. Anybody who deals here just based on locations of other people are plain idiots in my opinion. :)
     
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  7. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    He is from Romania, so you can´t blame him for being ashame of his country and write EU as location. Romanians are like the black sheep of the family and some EU countries are talking about putting up borders and requiring visas again just because of them.
     
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  8. MyVodaFone

    MyVodaFone Well-Known Member

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    We are not here to judge Countries or individuals.
     
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  9. ApocalypseXL

    ApocalypseXL Notable Member

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    #9
    If you look at the post it says country/continent so the user will be able to keep a level of anonymity by selecting the continent option .

    As for my location i can only be in one of the 27th states , I also travel a bit so i don't put my location as just one country . Anyone can check anyone's IP already the measure that i'm proposing exists just discourage retarded fraudsters that tend to post a lot of spam .

    The measure will also help new members that don't know how to protect themselves yet and are the best target for fraudsters .

    The European Union is a legal organism that has similar laws and a unified police system that can guarantee a pretty high level of fraud deterrence . Anyway that's not the point , i can easily bypass a system like that by using VPNs and so will any advanced user . I like to onion route my system for added security .

    This measure will only affect low level fraudsters , the type that lack any know how and funds to set up a VPN and the type that post a lot of spam to increase their post number .

    To the people reading gworld's reply . He's a troll that has been baned more times that he can count and he also holds a personal grudge against me and my country. Just treat him with love like you would treat any other special person :)


    Anyway let me reinforce the points again :

    #1 Members would be allowed to choose what they want to be displayed in the location slot :

    a) The country in which they are at this moment (automatically selected)
    b) The continent where they are located (automatically selected)
    c) Nothing

    #2 The measure will only affect no brain fraudsters that spam for post count .

    #3 This will protect new users that are not familiar with DigitalPoint or digital trade security .
     
    ApocalypseXL, Aug 28, 2011 IP
  10. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    This is not true. It is not a unified police or legal system. Just look at the desperation of different governments, police and judicial systems in dealing with Romanians and deporting them to their country. Italy, France and UK are threating to leave EU if they won´t be permitted to deal properly with Romanians and deporting them.
    low level fraudsters and criminals (beggars, pick pockets, home invasion, hookers)=Romanians are quite safe in EU and doing great business.
     
    gworld, Aug 28, 2011 IP
  11. peter_anderson

    peter_anderson Notable Member

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    You can't judge a person based on their location. One of the people I've worked with the longest on the Internet is from a typical scam country, yet he's 100% safe.

    The EU fraud police aren't going to do anything over a $25 sale on the internet. There are a lot bigger fraud operations ongoing in Eastern Europe and nothing is done. The EU also doesn't have a unified police system - police from other EU countries are allowed to share information with each other, but there's not much else.

    @gworld, Glasgow is full of Romanian beggars forcing out the local homeless population.
     
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  12. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    If you look at above posts, ApocalypseXL mentioned that he travels a lot. I wonder how he likes Glasgow.
     
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  13. The Webby

    The Webby Peon

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    #13
    Alright, lets not turn this thread into a flame war, please.
    Irrespective of whether OP is ashamed of his location, I think this is a good suggestion.

    Transparency and honesty are all required in a business transaction. If someone is trying to hide something as trivial as his/her location while doing the business, it is probably not a good idea to do business with him/her.

    Auto location can at least give a hint about that and may save many from being ripped off.
     
    The Webby, Aug 28, 2011 IP