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France Suffered Terrorist attack

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by IG2010, Jan 7, 2015.

  1. #1
    This happened this morning, Media called Charlie Hebdo have seen 3 armed guy storming a meeting killing 12 in name of a religion.

    more info on the mirror
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/charlie-hebdo-terror-attack-sickening-4935314

    If you want to show you support, check twitter hashtag #jesuischarlie
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    We, in France, do not consider these people true represent of their religion and we do not condemn this religion as we know these people are just extremist and do not act on behalf of their religion

    To all 12 people who died in this EXECUTION, rest in peace
     
    IG2010, Jan 7, 2015 IP
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  2. Nathan Franklin

    Nathan Franklin Member

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    Saw this on the news.

    My heart goes out to the family and friends of those affected.

    As you said, we need to remember this isn't a case of an attack by Muslims its an attack by extremists. Something a lot of people including the media seem to forget here in the UK.
     
    Nathan Franklin, Jan 7, 2015 IP
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    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    It's a sign of emotional maturity to be able to accept satire and argument as an alternate but valid opinion.

    The assailants are no more than infants striking out at someone who hurt their feelings.
     
    sarahk, Jan 7, 2015 IP
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    jrbiz Acclaimed Member

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    This is correct. Also correct is that history shows that extremists with abhorrent views and actions can cause a lot of damage and suffering if good people stay silent and do not openly fight such evil.
     
    jrbiz, Jan 8, 2015 IP
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    TopForum.Ir Active Member

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    Just wondered why France police didn't arrest those terrorists when they came back from Syria!!!
     
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  6. IG2010

    IG2010 Well-Known Member

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    Why would they? Since they haven't done nothing but travelling even though we might know why they travelled, as long as they haven't done nothing on our ground, no reason to arrest them. But these things will change soon, Germany and France are taking actions about people who travelled to those countries to get trained.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    To be fair, Nathan, it was an attack by Muslim extremists, who carried out the attack specifically because of their Muslim faith. If you need evidence of that, look no further than the opinions of British Muslims on such attacks:

    The news is no less alarming on the question of freedom of speech. Seventy-eight percent support punishment for the people who earlier this year published cartoons featuring the Prophet Mohammed. Sixty-eight percent support the arrest and prosecution of those British people who "insult Islam." When asked if free speech should be protected, even if it offends religious groups, 62 percent of British Muslims say No, it should not.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/many-british-muslims-put-islam-first/

    78%. Not exactly the "tiny minority of Muslims" who think this way.
     
    Obamanation, Jan 17, 2015 IP
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  8. IG2010

    IG2010 Well-Known Member

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    Or 78% is the percentage made by the media by asking people known to be a bit "extremist" however, it doesn't matter what they think, if they want to tickle our laws and our point of views while we leave them dealing with their business, they will end exactly the same way as those 3 did, 30 bullets in each body.

    I watched the news about people in afghanistan burning french flags, this is what make us civilized, we don't burn their flag becauses of 3 brainless idiots.
     
    IG2010, Jan 19, 2015 IP
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    Your allegation here is that the poll over sampled the "extremists" in the Muslim community? Do you have any evidence to back that claim up? There are certainly a variety of other polls from other sources that seem to corroborate those numbers. For example:

    20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...ls-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html

    1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/many-british-muslims-put-islam-first/

    61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans
    32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans
    41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans
    38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans
    83% of Palestinians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (only 14% oppose)
    62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose)
    42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose)
    A minority of Muslims disagreed entirely with terror attacks on Americans:
    (Egypt 34%; Indonesia 45%; Pakistan 33%)
    About half of those opposed to attacking Americans were sympathetic with al-Qaeda’s attitude toward the U.S.
    http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf

    The list goes on and on. Lets be clear on one VERY important detail. This is NOT a tiny minority of Muslims.


    They don't have flags, unless you are talking about the flag of Al Queda, and even that isn't universal. Perhaps drawing a picture of Mohammad would be a more fitting response.
     
    Obamanation, Jan 20, 2015 IP
  10. IG2010

    IG2010 Well-Known Member

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    Again, your "proof" are from medias, also since when afghanistan have no flag?
     
    IG2010, Jan 21, 2015 IP
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    My proof is from scientifically conducted surveys. We aren't talking about web polling here.

    Are there ways a scientifically conducted study can produce wrong results? Absolutely. You can fail to get a representative sample. You can ask leading questions. There are a variety of other ways as well. Unfortunately for Muslims, it is not just one scientifically conducted poll that indicates most support honor killings, sharia law, support for well known terrorists, support for the Caliphate, etc, etc,etc. There have been literally hundreds of these studies, conducted over the last two decades, and they ALL tell the same story. Large minorities of Muslims support terrorism. Large minorities support terrorist leaders (majorities in some countries). Majorities of Muslims in western countries favor limits to free speech when it comes to insults to the long dead goat herder known as Muhammad.

    You could dispute one poll as media propaganda, but the pure quantity of studies on the topic is impossible to deny. Of the 1.5 billion Muslims worldwide, it is quite likely that at least 400 million approved of the 9-11 attacks on America.

    Regarding Afghanistan's flag, were you under the impression the 9-11 bombers were Afghani? Or the 7-7 bomber? Or the Charlie Hebdo murderers? NONE of them were Afghani. They all had one thing in common. I'll give you two guesses, but you should only need one.
     
    Obamanation, Jan 22, 2015 IP