Founder of Crips Gang to be executed

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by yo-yo, Oct 30, 2005.

  1. mcfox

    mcfox Wind Maker

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    #81
    What about this toosie guy then? At the moment he is keeping kids out of gangs and therefore stopping them from becoming murderers, etc. Is that not a mitigating factor for granting him clemency and reducing the sentence to life without parole?
     
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  2. palespyder

    palespyder Psycho Ninja

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    #82
    If the proof was not really there then how was he convicted of the crime? I understand there are people hurried through the system and scapegoated, but, come on, you have to do some pretty serious crap to be killed for it. Half the time, a murderer in a drive by shooting will be out of prison within 10 years, these are hardened people who have comitted MAJOR crimes, mass murder, multiple victim murders.
     
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  3. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #83
    pretty much palesydyer looks like some sort crazed freak doesn't he?

    Quoteing the bible and saying he'd execute your own child

    please ....

    The dark ages ended awhile ago,
     
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  4. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #84
    Then how do you explain so many on death row in the first place being found innocent? It should be a higher standard than a guilty verdict that's all I'm saying and shouting for.

    Innocent people are put in prison and sentenced to death much more than most people would like to admit. Look at some of the court cases, people being found guilty with no real proof, nothing more than speculation. If you want to use the lack of info to put someone into jail as so many juries have fine, but don't allow the death penalty to become involved in such cases.
     
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  5. palespyder

    palespyder Psycho Ninja

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    #85
    Bit harsh, but it's population control ;) j/k

    People will slip through the system on both sides, happens all the time, but, just remember that if you ask the people there, Prisons are overflowing with people who didn't do it.
     
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  6. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #86
    Yes but when it's our government doing the killing it makes our government a murderer if there is no real control put in place to make absolutely certain the person did it in a death penalty case.

    I would think even those gun ho on the death penalty would like my idea of a 'higher standard' as more would support the death penalty, and more actual executions would take place even with less being given the death penalty verdict.

    To say it's ok for people to 'slip through the system' especially in the case of death is pretty lame if there is a way to stop it form happening in the death penalty cases. Kind of like saying ohwell another merchant was killed last night, well you know some of them 'will' be killed it just happens in roberies.

    Would you at least be for a higher standard for death penalty cases, those not meeting that standard but still found guilty simply get a prison sentence?
     
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  7. SEbasic

    SEbasic Peon

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    #87
    Let's not get caught in personal insults...

    Everyone has a viewpoint...

    It's just that some are wrong. :p
     
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  8. palespyder

    palespyder Psycho Ninja

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    #88
    HAHAH! Nice ;)
     
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  9. palespyder

    palespyder Psycho Ninja

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    #89
    Your absolutely right because I should flip flop and say that it is okay to execute someone so long as they are no related to me.

    And for your information, the Thou Shalt Not Kill post was the the one that prompted scripture, it was proving a point that the bible can be used on both sides, I am not even Christian.

    Again someone who cannot argue their point resorts to personal insults. :rolleyes:
     
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  10. Hodgedup

    Hodgedup Notable Member

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    #90
    I like to make my point and throw in personal inults just so it stings a little bit. I found this to be most effective.
     
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  11. palespyder

    palespyder Psycho Ninja

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    #91
    That is the best way, rub some salt into the wound. ;)
     
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  12. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #92
    I did not say palespdyer is a crazed freak, i said that he was looking like one

    am I the only who thinks quoting the old testemant any saying the would want their own child executed is a little off?
     
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  13. SEbasic

    SEbasic Peon

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    #93
    Well, I'm not christian - so the bible really holds little relevance to me anyway.

    RE: Executing your kids - I think the point PaleSpyder was making that regardless as to how close you are to the person who committed the crime, they still deserve to be punished.

    I think.

    :|

    [added]Is that your Ferret sitting on a keyboard? Do they make good pets if it is?
     
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  14. Hodgedup

    Hodgedup Notable Member

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    #94
    I dated a chick that had 2. They were fun and friendly kind of. They smelled bad even though she cleaned their cage a lot.
     
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  15. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #95
    LOL. Are you kidding me?

    If 1% are lucky enough to be given a second look and found innocent, how many more were simply locked up and forgotten about before being executed? :rolleyes:
     
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  16. SEbasic

    SEbasic Peon

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    #96
    Yeah I heard that too... Can you house train them so you don't have to clean a cage at all?
    Why the kind of???
     
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  17. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #97
    Its not the poo, ferrets have musk glands, which is why they smell.
     
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  18. palespyder

    palespyder Psycho Ninja

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    #98
    Your absolutely right, if my child kills 20 people and eats them, he should be given a nice warm cell with 3 hot meals and human interaction so that maybe he can be "fixed" by the system. He should be given access to lawyers to appeal his conviction and psychologists to help him work through WHY he likes human flesh. He should be given 5 hours a day outside to workout, play basketball. Or maybe we could just let him go free, I mean hell all he did was eat some people, he can be fixed with enough therapy. We can give him access to the internet so he can find a loophole in his conviction. We could all be so lucky as to have what those "criminals" get. They have TV, libraries, computers, schools, hot meals, and get paid to work. Now thats quite the legal detterrant ain't it?
     
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  19. palespyder

    palespyder Psycho Ninja

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    #99
    Nope just down for random killing ;) j/k yes thats exactly what I meant.
     
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  20. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #100
    What inmates have internet access? Inmates work for like a quarter a day, at least in NY.

    Anyone who did all thestuff you said, would be living in a super max prision where they live in cage for 23 hours a day.
     
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