Forums...won't it be the same IP over and over?

Discussion in 'AdSense' started by Dekker, Nov 15, 2005.

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    Would this raise flags with Google? Should I contact them and tell them my site is a forum?
     
    Dekker, Nov 15, 2005 IP
  2. mattmdesign

    mattmdesign Well-Known Member

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    no.

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  3. Dekker

    Dekker Peon

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    okie dokie :p anyone care to expand? sorry was just reading some stuff about similar IPs and google banning. how would they know the difference really?
     
    Dekker, Nov 15, 2005 IP
  4. jlawrence

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    Please explain what you mean:
    What will be the same IP ??
    If you mean that most of your regular visitors will when they return have similar IP's then yes, of course they will. But most regular visitors to a forum don't click on ads anyway.
     
    jlawrence, Nov 16, 2005 IP
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    what do you mean google bans for same ip?

    Do you mean sites with same ip or people surfing on same ip?

    I think it would be hard to ban a site with the same ip as most hosting companies can host many sites on the same ip.
     
    millst2, Nov 16, 2005 IP
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    Jako Well-Known Member

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    Clicks are tracked by the IP. Don't click on your own ads because google will be able to track if you have clicked your own ads.
     
    Jako, Nov 16, 2005 IP
  7. Dekker

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    Yes, I know that. But doesn't google identity 'click farming' by sites with the same repeated IPs clicking over and over. Wouldn't a forum generate something like that as well?
     
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    mika Active Member

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    If your visitors click on the ads without buying anything and the advertisers on your site use conversion tracking (AdWords), your site most probably will get a very low CPC because of smart pricing. And I think this scenario might be quite possible in forums. But don't forget that regular visitors won't notice the ads after some time.
     
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    your visitors each have their own Ip address,,, your site is on its own ip... the only way people can have the same ip is if they are at a library, college computer lab etc etc,, now if this is the case then google will consider this click fraud as you will have several clicks coming fro the same ip... but as long as you do not click on your own ads then you should be ok,,, the forum is hosted which means the visitors will access the site from their personal ip addresses for their pc's///

    Is this what you mean?
     
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  10. jlawrence

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    SVZ: You're going to have to explain what you're thinking a bit more.
    What springs to my mind is that you don't understand how the adsense system works (or how the internet works as far as tracking visitors/clicks goes).
    Try and explain what you're thinking.
    Don't worry if it sounds daft or doesn't read right. We'll be able to work out the gist of where you're coming from. It could be that you've just got one bit of the puzzle missing which will make everything make sense to you.
     
    jlawrence, Nov 16, 2005 IP
  11. Dekker

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    Well this is what I'm thinking, I guess it's no coming across lol.

    We all hear about this sites that share clicks, I click on your ads we click on ours. I'm mainly talking about the one that was recently up on eBay, that webmaster system.

    So for example, if you 'paid' people to click. You'd have like....clicks from the same 100 IPs over and over

    And on a forum, it's return visitors, maybe the same 500 people, and the same people clicking.

    Wouldn't it seem the same, the pay to click and the forum, in the eyes of Google?

    I'm just wondering how sites get caught for fraud when there's pay to click schemes. Because they have to...otherwise there'd be people getting hundreds of dollars a day scamming the system.

    Like same on DP, what if there was just...you know 20 people who were nice, and consistently clicked on the ads here. Wouldn't that start to raise flags?
     
    Dekker, Nov 16, 2005 IP
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    That's part of the problem with forums. Return visitors (ie those who use the forum regulary) become ad blind and rarely if ever even notice the ad never mond click on it.
    It's often the drive by visitors that click on the ads.
    I can see where you're coming from now, but I think you'd find that most users of a forum simply don't see the ads.
     
    jlawrence, Nov 17, 2005 IP
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    so google can always track your clicks, what if you use the library to click your adds without accessing your account, how will they know?
     
    pk1971, Nov 17, 2005 IP
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    ....that's just pointless. you could get a job and in an hour make 200x what you'd get by clicking some ads before you get banned :p
     
    Dekker, Nov 17, 2005 IP