Forget Writing and submitting articles...

Discussion in 'General Marketing' started by BigBob, Jul 13, 2006.

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    I think this whole thing about submitting articles to article directories to get back links and improve you search position is way over hyped. My experience with several articles is that I get a trickle of visitors, and my rankings and backlinks from these sites is almost completely dismissed by Google.

    I think this is one of those fads that Google has done a good job in filtering...and thus offers little or no help anymore :(
     
    BigBob, Jul 13, 2006 IP
  2. Michael

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    Article directories I agree but selective publishing is a very good technique. I wrote about it here if you are interested - Publishing Articles.

    - Michael

     
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  3. DarkBrothers

    DarkBrothers Active Member

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    Try submitting different versions of each article to each article directory. Would help some with the dupe filters.
     
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  4. rezx

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    If articles dont help my god arent we in grave danger?cuz its only articles that can make most of the sites informative and contentful. i guess somewhere in the algorithm drez something with illustration..cuz most of the successful stories comes with a good illustration within the article itself...actually this is what i think am i wrong?
     
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    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    yes; submitting articles (re: spamming) is not a good tactic. However, doing good articles in a common sense way (re: not spamming) - thru selective submission is a great way to market your site. If you are doing articles solely for the links; you are doing it for the very wrong reasons.
     
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    I had some experience with articles. What I liked most about it (e.g. ezinearticles.com) that several internet sites republished it and I've got lots of traffic through that.

    Republishing and spreading you articles automatically adds much sense to erigin them.

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    kind regards,
    Al
     
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    infonote Well-Known Member

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    Everything helps. Successful webmarketers try everything i suppose.
     
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  8. apondonet

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    Big Bob:

    If you concentrate on 'High Quality' article writing instead of 'Numbers' writing, you will achieve the SEO goals that you so much desire.

    People will pay very little attention to badly written articles...and it becomes worse when you submit several poorly written articles to thousands of directories in the hope that you will get an equal number of backlinks. By doing so you are just adding to your frustration.

    On single article that is well researched and articulated will do you more good than 20 short and poorly written ones.

    Hundreds of thousands of bloggers and co., are looking for TopNotch content A.K.A. Link Bait. You have to convince the person reading your article that it's worthy of his/her blog....and if it is, the backlinks will come with ease......naturally.
     
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  9. free

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    I've tried the numbers and also the quality game to see the results and I agree with apondonet. that's my 2cents
     
    free, Jul 16, 2006 IP
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    There's always going to be a use for articles, but it's the way they are syndicated that could be the problem. There are simply too many sites out there that are nothing but a collection of other people's articles, in other words MFA sites with content that can be sourced elsewhere.

    So by writing articles for syndication, you are effectively adding to the sum of MFA sites. Bloggers don't really need to have the whole of your article available to them, to blog about it. They can just quote a sentence or two and add their comments, linking back to the article on your site. Well-written articles will attract links, even if you don't syndicate them.
     
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  11. marketjunction

    marketjunction Well-Known Member

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    It's like any marketing. There are those that know how to make it work for them and those that don't. Also, there are those that it might not work for at all.

    I have been exchanging articles for publicity for 10 years now. I don't see it going anywhere. Having an article submission website, I get lots of submissions and can see why many "Authors" have problems.

    We all have our strong and weak points.
     
    marketjunction, Jul 17, 2006 IP
  12. Moresco79

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    Writing articles works.

    Think about it - what possible harm can come of writing articles? At the very least you should expect some free traffic and backlinks.

    Last week I set up a quick blog to presell an affiliate product and wrote and submitted three articles. By the end of the week I had received 120 visitors, my blog hitting the number 1 and 2 pages in Google for certain search terms, and five affiliate sales totalling $150.

    Nothing special, that's only a tiny example. It's not correct to suggest that article submission is redundant. But the less people competing, the better for me :)
     
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  13. relevance4u

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    >Writing articles works.

    well... it might on Yahoo and MSN...

    but believing that bad links or too many low quality links won't harm you is just wrong...

    seen too many opposite situations in the past 6 months
     
    relevance4u, Jul 22, 2006 IP
  14. marketjunction

    marketjunction Well-Known Member

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    I have websites built solely from article marketing and they are in Google just fine. Aside from wild speculation and rumors, what have you specifically done to support your notion?

    I know its a wild rumor out there, but I have not seen anything to support it (on my own network at least). An existing website can drop for many reasons. That's why I built some fresh ones from the ground to see the affect of article marketing on a website.
     
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  15. apondonet

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    Nice Tutorials you have on your website. I am yet to design a website that is fully CSS | XHTML compliant...I guess I am "Table Lazy"

    That said, I believe that article marketing is an SEO Tactic that will never die!

    It's easy to distinguish between a well written article and a badly written one....at least to a "content seeker", for now. As for search engines, as they tweak their algorithms they might one day be capable of doing the same and accurately ...Artificial intelligence?

    Writing is what "powers" the web and that's exactly what we are doing in this distinguished forum right now.
     
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  16. Black_Hand

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    well i think article submission is the way to go!
     
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    Actually, I've made quite a few sales through articles, and if you include links to your site, when the articles is picked up by other sites, it all adds to link generation without so much grunt work, and usually they are placed on highly relevant related sites, so all good as far a I'm concerned....
     
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    Tell it to John Reese and Jim Edwards that articles aren't good for backlinking. If you are THAT good, and know how to market yourself then articles can do you wonders. The prize, as someone mentioned before, is when someone reprints your article. You need to get creative and get viral.
     
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  19. apondonet

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    Interesting statement!

    Could you please elaborate......I would love to know how you reached your conclusion.
     
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  20. Keith Taylor

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    The perception of the power of articles has been watered down somewhat by the fact that buyers only want to pay pennies for professionals to write their content. The result of this, of course, is that they get a poorly written article - which will get them nothing but a backlink and a nasty taste in their mouth.

    Smart webmasters realise that investing in quality content is among the most positive steps they can take in ensuring the success of their site. A well-written article will be syndicated and syndicated, taking it from the obscurity of an article submission site to the upper echelons of the Internet - taking your URL along with it all the way. A well written article really can have the power of a hundred average ones.
     
    Keith Taylor, Jul 24, 2006 IP