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Forged PageRank

Discussion in 'Google' started by noli_m, Dec 12, 2007.

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    A site which has a forged PR 5. My question is, when will its pr vanish? will it be on pr updates?

    Any link regarding forged and valid pr information.. Please..
     
    noli_m, Dec 12, 2007 IP
  2. SKE11

    SKE11 Peon

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    #2
    I would have thought that if a site has a forged PR then they are probably also using other techniques that will get them de-listed.

    If not and if G never learns of the forged PR then they should continue to gain real PR as the updates happen.

    As I understand it the fake PR is for visitors eyes only and the bots do not see it, although it would not be hard for G to include a find fake PR addition to their algorithm and then use this to ban sites with it.

    IMO stay away from sites with fake PR.
     
    SKE11, Dec 12, 2007 IP
  3. mikemason

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    #3
    How can I tell if a site has a forged PR?
    I've never heard of this but I sometimes get odd emails from people wanting to place links on my site, I try to stay away from "bad neighborhoods"

    Mike
     
    mikemason, Dec 12, 2007 IP
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    #4
    I've never heard of a forged PR either...
    How do you forge a PR?
     
    tylerdjefferson, Dec 12, 2007 IP
  5. DonMecca

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    #5
    Easy, all a person has to do is use a 302 redirect for their domain and point it to a high PR domain. Keep it up like that for a couple of months until the next PR update and TADA. you have forged useless PR. In the Google toolbar it will show the PR of the page it was pointed to.
     
    DonMecca, Dec 12, 2007 IP
  6. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #6
    I believe that a 301 redirect will work as well, No?
     
    Will.Spencer, Dec 12, 2007 IP
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    cache Peon

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    #7
    there are some tools for you to use to check if it is a fake one, I can't find the link any more, hope someone else can point the link
     
    cache, Dec 12, 2007 IP
  8. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #8
    The Tech-FAQ's Domain Info tool is one of those.

    [Disclaimer: That's my site]
     
    Will.Spencer, Dec 12, 2007 IP
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    #9
    most of the time forged page ranks are lost after a page rank update, but sometimes the domain can retain its page rank. the easiest way to check for forged page rank is to use info command on the google.
     
    dman_2007, Dec 12, 2007 IP
  10. mcaronan

    mcaronan Peon

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    #10
    Yeah... how can anyone tell whether it is a forge PR? And can anyone really does it??
     
    mcaronan, Dec 12, 2007 IP
  11. izeaus

    izeaus Banned

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    #11
    Actually Just check the Info: Domain and Site:domain In Google Search and you can see easily that site has 301 Redirect or 302 Redirect to high PR domain

    And the question of Retaining PR, Yes some sites do Retain PR when PR updates because of the Backlinks they generate.
     
    izeaus, Dec 12, 2007 IP
  12. SmartMoney

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    Yes, I have done it accidentally. I had a domain that I purchased and used as a redirect to my site. I promoted the domain in a couple articles I wrote.

    A couple months later, instead of redirecting that domain, I just pointed it to a parking page. One day I noticed it had a PR4, the same as the page it was originally redirected to. So I figured out what others have mentioned, if you do a 301 to a high PR page, the redirect URL will pick up the PR.

    Once I saw a PR8 site for sale that looked fishy. I did a link:fishyPR8site.com on Google and it had about a million backlinks.

    I investigated further and all the backlinks were pointing to CNET.com :) so be careful if you are buying any high PR sites, it is easy to fake the rating.
     
    SmartMoney, Dec 13, 2007 IP
  13. w0lfenst1en

    w0lfenst1en Well-Known Member

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    #14
    can you tell me what the mechanism a valid PR become fake or forget.
    i see some domain had a valid PR before turned to fake.
     
    locjan, May 28, 2008 IP
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    onlineshopping Banned

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    #15
    i really don't know how people made this dead thread again alive....
     
    onlineshopping, May 28, 2008 IP
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    #16
    I know why, but you need to have some bit concenrtation.
     
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  17. chaitanya.seo

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    #17
    What is fake PR? and From Where this word is Originated?
     
    chaitanya.seo, May 28, 2008 IP
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    #18
    Just concentrate on getting PR and SERP rankings with out putting yourself in to deep discussion of pr.
     
    Bloomtools, May 28, 2008 IP
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    #19
    Exactly, i will Focus in only my SERP and Quality back links to achieve Target in Search engines, PR will generate itself if you've finished on page and off page optimization.

    Thanks
    John
     
    johnenderson, May 28, 2008 IP
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    If you want to link some one website, you should know google embody his site and how many link of his website .especially about his PR.Hope this suggestion can help you .
    good luck!
     
    seasonying, May 29, 2008 IP