For sale: West’s deadly nuclear secrets

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    For sale: West’s deadly nuclear secrets
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article3137695.ece

    You read this, and then you feel sick. It goes back to the shell game they play with the war. We're spreading democracy, but Iraq is more militant than ever before. We're protecting Musharaf, but under his watch, nuclear secrets were sold to Libya. Our own government might be complicit (at the individual level) of selling state secrets and treason. But you won't see it reported on the domestic news. Only in the UK.

    Read both links. You'll feel as sick as I do.

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  2. The Webmaster

    The Webmaster IdeasOfOne

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    Yeah, I read this article few days ago. And if it's true its really serious.
     
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    I can't believe what I have read. There shouldn't be a cover up or trying to gagged the whistle blower. Investigation need to be initiated from the highest level. There you are in Iraq spending trillions to curb the so call WMD, there you allow easy access for allies and enemies alike to gain secrets of WMD. In that case, there is no need for any Iraqi war, North Korean dialogue and investigation into Iranian nuclear facilities.

    They might as well published all the secrets on the Internet for everyone. This is crazy double standards and total violation of law and order.
     
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    i don't really care anymore.
    let all have nukes and blowup each others.
    in my opinions, the only country that can put the end of this world is USA.
    if the world going to an end, not because of some tiny country with home made riffle in middle east or asia or africa... don't look to far.

    they busy telling others what to do while they rotten inside.
     
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    There are more than a few countries that can end this world.

    USA, Russia, France, UK and China. (the last 3 to a certain extent). The first two can destroy the world many times over in a strategy known as MAD Mutually Assured Destruction.

    I wonder how many of you had seen "A Beautiful Minds" it is said that John Nash game theory in some extent is being used in this MAD strategy.

     
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    i saw the movie, great movie.
    but somehow, i doubt that any other countries will push the first trigger to launch a nuclear missile.
    only USA who capable to do such thing.
    and if they do, we will see our last biggest fireworks.
     
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    Great movie. Game theory has been used for some time as a tool in international relations analysis. Pretty fascinating stuff. When I was at Berkeley (in the PhD program, political science, 1987), I got some exposure to it (although my field was developmental theory and comparative analysis), and found its implications huge. I am sure usage has grown astronomically, into rigorously formal modelling based on game theory.
     
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    It has grown a lot, lots of great papers on it. The maths has grown so much that it has more or less outgrown the typical economics student, more into decision science nowadays.

    BTW have you heard of the story about John Nash? When he asked his professor for his recommendation to his phd, his professor wrote a simple one liner "That guy's a genius"!

     
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    I would think so. I haven't formally studied in 20 years, but still pursue it all from a layman's peculiar interest. I am fortunate to have a wealth of quantitative social science datasets (147 datasets, stuff like "Eurobarometer 55.0 - European Union Enlargement...", "Disturbances in France, 1830-1860 and 1930-1960: Intensive Sample", etc.) that fill my STATA hours richly.

    :D
     
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