For awhile I was on the page one for the phrase 'stock options'. Hardly any traffic

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    wouldn't you think this was a competitive, high-traffic phrase? maybe it isn't. or maybe nobody is using MSN. what do you think?
     
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    Try DPs keyword suggestion tool to see how competitive it is.
     
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  3. stereolab

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    wordtracker
    stock options 208.0 /day

    overture
    stock option 910.2 /day

    ok, i wasn't coming up for 'stock option' (singular) on msn. i was coming up for 'stock options' (plural). i can't find 'stock options' on overture. but man, you'd think even stock options was a decent phrase. eh. who knows.
     
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    I feel your pain! I was #9 on MSN for "stock market" for a couple of weeks. Yeah - I got like 5 people from MSN in that time period. MSN seems to be crazy slow. Now my site has fallen back to page 3-4 for that phrase, but no big loss.
     
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    that's friggin crazy. i swear NOBODY is using MSN. if you got on Goog's page one SERP for stock market, your server would probably melt :D
     
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    Yeah - when I was checking and saw where I was, I was pretty excited. I just checked and still on page 3. Weird - the cache is over two weeks old, even though the MSN spider is on my site all the time. Either way, I guess it doesn't matter.

    What is your site? Mine is the one in my sig.
     
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    were you ranked in Yahoo? i haven't much luck there either

    i don't really like posting my sites on message boards. the one in my sig is kind of related to the topics here, so i posted it
     
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    Give it time, as it got a high ranking on MSN, it will probably start ranking higher in Yahoo & Google. It's happened to me!
     
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    I know exactly where you are coming from. I am #2 for 'photo hosting' on msn and I only got a whopping 4 visitors from it this month so far! :eek: You would think I would be getting much more traffic from that keyword phrase.
     
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    Just curious, why not?
     
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    I was on MSN at 5th position for around a week or so and got a lot of traffic from them. It may be because of the type of sites, for example mine was just entertainment. I'm currently on the second page and traffic has dropped of course but still getting plenty, I'm at 97% bandwidth for the month actually...hope my host responds to my email soon!
     
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    I have heard that entertainment sites do really well in msn. From your post, it seems there may be some truth to it.
     
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    As posted above.

    The amount of traffic you get from MSN depends on your keyword(s). I rank between 1-4 on MSN for my keyword(s) and I get ~2k-3k uniques a day from them.

    You can read this article: How Do I find the Best Keywords to target?, leave feedback if possible.
     
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    that makes sense, since (it's my theory) that most msn users hit the search through msn.com which is very entertainment and 'current event / entertainment' oriented. i think that people use msn for these kinds of timely topics and google for 'concept' or straight information about non-current-events topics. seems like Yahoo is the same thing. although, i personally use google news for my daily updates.

    i don't think msn will become as popular until it can fight aggressive SEO. it seems it's pretty easy for most people to get their site in the first page serp.
     
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    How would this change things?
    The average internet user KNOWS NOTHING about SEO.

    It may keep spammers in check, but there's always a way.

    I personally only use MSN because I for one am ranked pretty well in it and get a decent amount of traffic from them, other than that I tend to use Google (may have to search through the first few pages to get what I'm looking for), but all in all Google, Yahoo and MSN I.M.E. are just about the same... poor pages will always seem to seep through the cracks and allow themselves to rank better than more relevant pages.
     
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    personally, i don't think that neither Yahoo nor MSN are ready for prime time. it's not their core competence. however, i also don't think it's their strategy to beat google in that way. i think that both of them are going to come out with guns blazing to defeat adsense / adwords, and i think they can do it.

    both msn and yahoo have huge revenue from other areas. they both can take a loss by paying out more than google to publishers (wouldn't you switch if you got 40% more?) this will crush google's ad revenue, since the traffic will be on msn and yahoo's network. advertisers will go there. since this is basically google's only revenue source, it could crush the search engine giant's financials. yahoo and msn could take a big loss for a few years. (yahoo does this in other lines of business, as does msft (xbox anyone?)

    basically, i'm not very bullish on goog's long-term success. but i would't short that stock with YOUR money right now. it's a speculative hot potato detached from fundamentals. (sorry for the ramble).
     
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    Those seem like pretty good seach terms. What postion are you ranked at in MSN?
     
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