Follow up on "The Return of Slavery by Kraven": Motion raised

LOOK AT WRITING, AS IT SHOULD BE LOOKED AT



So leaving this magnificent profit return at $12, and cutting it to $6.00 or even $4.00 is sheer exploitation.

To see a complete explanation log at the more explanatory blog post right here at DP.

 

I guess this is the last day until the end score? How many hours for the final tally?

 

It appears it is over. Thankfully, I came to my senses.

 

Merely the beginning is more like it

 

I'm still looking for a resolution on this. A guild of writers that are certified as high quality ones for a higher pay, would it work?

 

It may work for all you know! Why don't you head over to HERE and see for yourself.

 

Guys, thank you for the wonderful exchange of ideas. Your responses taught a lot of us something new and open others eyes about the issue of exploitation and fair business - even if they won't admit it here. Unfortunately, the voting is over. I'm only going to tally the votes that falls above this post. But please do continue sharing your ideas... continue the discussion or you could come up with another thread as a byproduct of this thread.

I'll be right back with the final tally and my personal take on this issue.

 

It was already continued, now featured in the main blog bar, as Article writing as a business. There it is presented not as slavery but as simple business exploitation, with the facts and figures to prove it. Everyone should not only read it, but at least add a line comment. That is the purpose of this forum, and the opportunity is right now!

 

Final Tally

Number of voters/participants 17

Ayes 10
Nays 4
Neutral 3*

*At least 2 people voted against the motion but later changed their tone saying they would vote yes if the “ayes” get the majority, so their votes are counted as neutral. Another user didn’t exactly state his stands, but ends up saying the minimum should be $0.015 per word regardless of anything; his/her vote is still counted as neutral.

So by a mile, without a doubt, the ayes have it. The most popular reason being the promotion of fairness and equality among DP-BST forum users, including the buyers even if some of them might disagree.

And for my personal take on the issue, here it is:

With full conviction, I say DP ought to impose minimum rates to all services offered here starting at the BST section.

In the real world, there is good reason to regulate activities including business. I wouldn’t even start enumerating what happened to big businesses when their governments left them to cut each others’ throats out.

So I say everyone has the social responsibility to look after each others' welfare. And in this case, it’s DP who’s got the corporate social responsibility to safeguard fairness and equality. What will become of DP should it impose minimum rates? It would become a bastion of reputable service providers and website owners who’s not going to hesitate mentioning the forum on their newsletters, email campaigns, blogs, resumes, etc.

And since I think a good number of starting Web copywriters are born here on this very forum, cleaning up our act here should at least clean some if not most of the contents we see on the Web today. So which is it? Maintain the status quo or embark on a momentous act of safeguarding our community, the Word Wide Web? Anyone with conscience and regard for quality wouldn’t hesitate to take a stand.

Once again I thank you guys for participating and I thank DP for not giving me an infraction. Please continue discussing the issue on this thread or on to another thread until a final, definitive resolution is achieved.

 

well said!

 

There is a grand total of 17 people and somehow this represents the whole ? This was ended. This thread does not represent nearly enough people to qualify as representative of the writers here at DP.

 

Then they should have posted. It was not like this thread was a secret.

So I think it does qualify. And judging from the PM's I receive on this on a regular basis, most writers do agree.

a lot are scared to speak out though, and fear they won't get jobs if they do.

 

Count another `Aye' from my end too. I have noticed for quite long about presumptions that, only US/UK writers can write an excellent article. Mere knowledge of English is not enough to write an article. You need to have the capabilities to day-dream. You need to visualize the subject while writing about it. I doubt if I have expressed myself coherently.

 

Well lets continue the discussion at http://blogs.digitalpoint.com/entry.php?b=193

 

Very intriguing idea re: DP setting payment minimums. I see so many reasons this would make sense for DP to do. But I also see potential snags . . .

-- Most other sites have a minimum buy amount. But that's because the site owner/company is getting a cut of the money. Would DP start taking %?
-- And what if all the good writers stopped hanging out here, due to the low pay rates? DP's reputation would take a hit. (I hear grumbling like this re: Elance.)

Well, you know trends shift all the time online. Maybe DP should think about doing something before too many good people take flight. It's a great forum, the best. But it wouldn't feel right for the strong writers' community here to leave. But sure enough, we've seen an Exodus movement over on Facebook. Hope things get calmer here.

 

Thank you Blue Star, as you know I have nothing to gain but principle so the forum in BST can be used for its true intention. Allow buyers and sellers to act in a business manner while conducting business. These corruption prices are hurting even people like you, and many other members that started there. I have never enjoyed seeing corruption, and this is more than loan sharking. Read my blog post and leave your opinion, whatever it may be. My mission on this forum, since I sell nothing, is to at least give a writer a little inspiration. As some of you know, I have also the financial power to eliminate exploitation, where it is triple the rate of profit any other business gets.

Some may have to seek refuge elsewhere or quit writing as being unqualified, or learn. This forum never promised fortunes, not did it mention hurting the reputation of the honest. So I said, lack of communication is no good. I sure would like feedback from the powers that be, if they support my upcoming actions, or would prefer to handle it in their own manner.

 

Sounds a lot like union busting doesn't it. I think that we need to get everyone to head over to the blog area and vote on this. Even if they are voting no or nay it is still a vote. Are the quality writers here at DP going to sit back and let their wages be dictated by these greedy penny pushing buyers? Even if you are reading this and your a buyer, go to http://blogs.digitalpoint.com/entry.php?b=193 read what is being said and vote. Rate the thread and comment. Let us all know how you feel about the recent trends here on DP.