Finding niches

Discussion in 'General Marketing' started by star2323, Feb 16, 2006.

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    Can anybody give me some tips on how to find good niches for sites. Are there any decent programs or software which help sort or search niches out?

    Thanks
     
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  2. mines

    mines Well-Known Member

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    That would be a niche itself probably (software to find that for people)
     
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  3. WebWriter

    WebWriter Active Member

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    There is a website that does that.

    What I do is think of a random interest that I have, I plug it into the site and see what I come up with.
     
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  4. Crazy_Rob

    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    Hit reload on Froogle and look at the most recent searches. Sometimes it can give you some good ideas.

    HA HA!
     
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    iowadawg Prominent Member

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    Is a niche.
    But be careful you do not select a niche that is so narrow, that there are not enough people searching.
    Niche: Fly Fishing
    Narrow niched: Arizona Fly Fishing
     
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    younghistorians Well-Known Member

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    If you have to ask about niches, chances are you will find one that will not succeed. The real sucessful niches are the ones driven by the site owner's passion (such as a hobby) or interests. Sites made and marketed by someone whose only doing it for 'the money' will get no where in the long run.

    Good luck.
     
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  7. iowadawg

    iowadawg Prominent Member

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    A very profitable niche for many people!
    Creating and selling ready-to-go sites and content.
    Just check out how many are now selling private label rights, both as memberships and as stand-alone products.
     
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    just-4-teens Peon

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    there are plenty of niches about u just have u find them, i know there are gaming niches, msn related niches, graphics niches that all brings tonnes of traffic, u need to find something that u enjoy doing.
     
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    tesla Notable Member

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    I would focus on something that is educational. There are enough internet marketing, credit card, and gambling sites. I think educational niche sites you're passionate about are going to take you far.
     
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    wordtracker.com
     
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    Also ask your friends if they have any ideas for sites that don't exist yet. I have gotten a couple of good ideas from that. (Especially ask the non computer types) 95% of the ideas they give you will be crap or sites that already exist, but ask the question enough and you'll hit that 5% :)
     
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  12. Brad Callen

    Brad Callen Peon

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    As mentioned above, Wordtracker is an excellent tool and well worth the investment, I use it all the time.

    Also the overture tool can help give you keyword idea's and also see if there are any rising starts in the list of keywords.

    Take a jump into a forum on your subject and talk to the people there, you will quickly find a niche within a topic that can be fulfilled.

    Also If you are looking for a niche on say golf (wouldnt use golf because it is so overly done, well not for a new starter anyhow).

    Then you could create a fly-catcher page with some questions and some sort of bonus for people answering the question.

    Then drive traffic to it with googld adwords or other ppc engines. You can't get much better then live market analysis.

    After about 100 questions, you will get a fair idea what the industry is really looking for.

    Brad
     
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  13. Greg-J

    Greg-J I humbly return to you.

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    What do you yourself search for?
     
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  14. star2323

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    Thanks everybody. Some good information here. I have using Wordtracker for a few monthes now. Its a nice tool!
     
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    FireStorM Well-Known Member

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    there is a tool on DP that calculates the number of searches each KW gets. use this and find niches
     
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    soj Well-Known Member

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    www.nichebot.com, i think thats what WebWriter was talking about, one i have used before, pretty good to see how much competition there is in the keyword searched and related keywords
     
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    seamus Peon

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    Tis a fair question star.
    Though as broad as the term niche would imply narrowness/specialist/defined area.

    Consider the guy who discovered that a niche existed for wheel chairs.
    Or anyone who might view a niche as an existing "product" which could be improved?
    While a keyword suggestion tool should always be used, maybe the creation of a regional tool/tools, would also be a niche.
    For example, overture's tool may not tell you how many searches there were for "banana skins" in Paris, Maine, but the number of searches wouldn't be an indication of the conversion rates, or indeed the efficiency levels of the competition.
    A small number of searches for something with a lucrative commission and conversion rates, may be a more profitable and a less competitive market. It does happen.

    Even with affiliate sites, it can be seen that there is potential there, just by optimising a site (the high number of aff. partners, don't typically do this, and don't do so properly. I know they can't with replicated pages alone, but there are legitimate ways).

    It wouldn't be a safe assumption that a number is the best, but that they are better at being number one. Through either seo or pagerank considerations. They are not garenteed that position, with respect to the future.

    It is to recognise such a niche, examine the competition, but to then take action as well.

    I suppose what I'm trying to say is that one shouldn't necessarily hone in a "niche", per say (as in continously looking for unexplored markets), where it might be easier to view a niche as something existing, but not existing as good as it could be.

    If anything at all could be done to ease the burden of waiting in traffic (anything constructive, however small), then that would have to work in a specialist or niche marktet. "Offline" and online are already merging with portable devices??? And nothing is too stupid where you have the acccess to find like minded people. Wireless Markup language could produce something workable and no enough people are looking at it.
    Find something here and you have it made.

    Ideas don't have to sound normal or traditional these days. That is what makes them ideas, afterall.
     
    seamus, Feb 18, 2006 IP