File sharing site's owners read this: Full Hotfile complaint. Who's next?

Discussion in 'Affiliate Programs' started by money$maker, Feb 21, 2011.

  1. #1
    The complaint contains 22 pages:
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/48444861/Hotfile-Complaint-2-8-11

    it's the end of Warez?

    Who's next? Filesonic, Fileserve or Oron? :confused:

    My recommendations:
    1- Elimination of site sales. count sales from links/files only.
    2- If your company is from Honk Kong (Filesonic) you can not host files on United States where DCMA policy of the datacenter is different (Example Lemuria Comunications Hotfile Datacenter). Move all files to Honk Kong servers

    Finally, If Liberty Media (Warnes Bros, Disney, Columbia Pictures, Universal Studios) wins the complaint against Hotfile/Paypal. then Paypal will take actions against all other hosts, like fileserve, filesonic, oron, etc. then those hosts can't use Paypal.

    Take care guys
     
    Last edited: Feb 21, 2011
    money$maker, Feb 21, 2011 IP
  2. jimbo-53

    jimbo-53 Active Member

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    @above - right as for filesonic - company is not .hk that's purely the IP of their server, server is located in .nl company (EarnWell LTD) is .uk registered. and hong kong hosting is stupidly expensive, .eu is best.

    and hosts should use alertpay :)
     
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  3. mcmoore

    mcmoore Well-Known Member

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    I hope this does not affect other hosts but as said by jimbo AP is not a bad choice at all. And as long as the files are hosted on servers that are non us there shouldnt be an issue but i know little about the matter
     
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  4. Mogggy

    Mogggy Peon

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    Funny though this is just a complaint, can i point out rapidshare has been sued many times and always won.
    Intresting is that you confuse two different cases

    Liberty media is a Porn company that sues hotfile/paypal and 1000 unknown users and has nothing to do with Warnes Bros, Disney, Columbia Pictures, Universal Studios, that is as far as i know.
    http://ia700405.us.archive.org/32/items/gov.uscourts.flsd.371547/gov.uscourts.flsd.371547.1.0.pdf
    please get your facts straight.........
     
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  5. money$maker

    money$maker Member

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  6. Mogggy

    Mogggy Peon

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    D'oh, yes i told you that.

    the thing your looking for is MPAA Sues Hotfile,.

    Everything you say doesn't make sence, MPAA filed a complaint, it doesn't mean hotfile is already conficted.
    if Hollywood has better lawyers/attorneys is a opinion and not realy a fact, some lawyers from New York would have another opinion about that i guess....
     
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  7. dscurlock

    dscurlock Prominent Member

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    #7
    There are no legit reasons for file sharing sites to exist other for them to make money.
    I think it is just a matter of time before the courts finally come to their common sense
    and realize this fact and close any and all file sharing sites...there is no legit reason
    to have them other then the fact to distribute warez so these sites can charge a fee....
     
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  8. Mogggy

    Mogggy Peon

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    Yes, and opinions are OK. only you do what most US citizens do, project your laws on the rest of the world, but its not so US law ends at the borders....
    For example its legal for me to download a copyrighted movie from the internet because the legal stuff/thingy in my country declared that its like video taping a movie. So for me its legit to buy a premium at hotfile since i'm allowed to download those hollywood movies for free.
    But i never downloaded or uploaded warez, since i'm a programmer and send many DMCA request to hotfile and others to remove my programs from their service.
    Instead of those expensive MPAA lawyers they should just employ people to search the web for their stuff and sent DMCA everytime. Good for the unemployment hitting ever country.
     
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  9. dkp

    dkp Well-Known Member

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    #9
    All copyright owners who are going to court against filesharing sites should also remember that filesharing sites can also be used for sharing non copyrighted files & hard to get old movies, songs etc.

    Also there is no reason to use google adsense or other ad sites, CPA as people can go & directly buy products from company sites, this is similar in all cases like there is no need to buy products from stores, resellers etc as people can directly order from company with reduced prices. In the same way filehosting sites too play an important part in media marketing.
     
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    sk8er431 Active Member

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    so which filesharing host is recommended now if hotfile fucks up?
     
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  11. jimbo-53

    jimbo-53 Active Member

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    I like duckload :p
     
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  12. mcmoore

    mcmoore Well-Known Member

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    yeah i get best results from duckload
     
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  13. dkp

    dkp Well-Known Member

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    Filesonic, Fileserve, Bitshare, Filefactory (rates less), Duckload etc are the leading one's which pays for every download from all countries. Filesonic gives amazing pay per sale rewards.
     
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  14. Mogggy

    Mogggy Peon

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    I would say spread it around, then after a while pick the best one for U.
    Like do you like your downloaders and want to give them the best download speed go with fileserve
    don't you care about your downloader and want to squeeze them to dead the go with Vilsonic
    duckload well need to see it first, if they will make it, the others are so new that well they can go all the way
    if you have small files and mainly US/EU traffic take a look at easy-share
    but also hotfile is not dead, i was not banned and i got a nice payment today.
     
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    dkp Well-Known Member

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    Bitshare gives the maximum download speed to free users also their ftp works like a charm even supports upload resume to free users, also their download rates are the highest in industry.
     
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    pacolim Member

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    OMG, my hotfile account just got deleted!
     
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  17. misohoni

    misohoni Notable Member

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    Well I've contacted Filesonic about our copyrighted content on our servers, they remove it continually but I don't think it's good enough...it shouldn't be on there in the first place.

    It's not our fault also that Filesonic don't have copyright testing measures put in place to know the difference between original content and copyrighted content - and then reward uploaders for doing it...right or wrongly...
     
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  18. jimbo-53

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    I think you will find that they do... you complain and they will ban the file's hash.
    that's all they can do... what do you expect them to do? view every .avi file and see if it's a movie or a private very personal home video? they wont do this as that's an invasion of piracy.
     
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    misohoni Notable Member

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    Hi Jimbo,

    Why should I have to complain in the first place though? I have to personally search out our site's copyrighted content on their servers, email them and then it gets removed. The users who uploaded the content don't get removed though...

    Yes I expect them to have a measure put in place where they are able to judge whether a file is copyrighted or not, either through watermarked content, embeded tags or filenaming.

    I saw they complained about a guy on DP using "filesonic" as his twitter name and they complained about trademarks and copyrights...I reckon 99% of all content uploaded to filesonic is copyrighted! (prove me wrong guys!). They mention they allow pictures, own music etc, to be uploaded whilst all I can see is the latest movies, music and pron!

    Do a search on google for:
    site:filesonic.com

    You can also see kids prono using the searches above, what the hell are you guys doing promoting this type of content?!
     
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  20. jimbo-53

    jimbo-53 Active Member

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    @misohoni - file hosts will always have it - you can't stop it. they are doing what they need to, if they verified every upload they would be out of business in a week, as they would need to hire 1000s of people to check all the files that are uploaded
    it's just not plausable to have every file cehcked
     
    jimbo-53, Jun 13, 2011 IP