Father Marries Pregnant Daughter

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by firefox911, Nov 20, 2007.

  1. M5love

    M5love Well-Known Member

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    #21
    Agreed.,,,
     
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  2. N_F_S

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    #22
    first of all, there is no age mentioned there

    2nd) try to prove it in court ;)

    pedophilia isnt the same as incest.
     
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  3. northpointaiki

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    #23
    Pedophilia is sex with an underage person. And it is accomplished with power, in all its forms. Your point?
     
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    #24
    So gross. Yet totally believable.
     
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    #25
    It says she is underage.

    Will people believe any retarded sicko who wakes up one day and claims that "God" told them these controversial things that go beyond any current belief?
     
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  6. N_F_S

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    #26
    my point to not mix pedophilia with incest.

    where?

     
    N_F_S, Nov 22, 2007 IP
  7. northpointaiki

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    #27
    You originally said:

    In response to Protein's comment. The only point is that force isn't likely, and it isn't relevant to the question at hand. Both incest and pedophilia depends on power, with someone in a position of power holding sway over a kid. It is evil. Now, I still do not know the point you are attempting to make.
     
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  8. N_F_S

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    #28
    incest does not depend on power or force, do you know what is it? The definition of it ? Since we dont know the girl's age, it is relevant Im afraid.
     
    N_F_S, Nov 22, 2007 IP
  9. northpointaiki

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    #29
    This appears to be a tough one for you, buddy. I assure you, I know what both incest and pedophilia are, and would direct you to look a little closer at the terms "power" and "force."

    ANYBODY IN A POSITION OF POWER - SUCH AS A FATHER IS, BY DEFINITION, uses that power in committing an act of incest; or a pedophile, using power in what they do. Power is not the same thing as force, though force is a type of power. The unequal division of power in a parent child relationship, a student-teacher relationship, a confessor/priest relationship, whatever, is what is relied upon by both incestuous assholes abusing their kids, or pedophiles to do what they do. A child has a natural love and trust for her parent, a student trusts a teacher, etc. Sick bastards like this father depend on this inequality in power to do what they do. It is all about power, and force isn't what's at issue, nor is it necessary.

    The bottom line is this is very much a question of power and wrong, and your initial post, and every post after, is irrelevant.
     
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  10. rightit

    rightit Well-Known Member

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    #30
    with daughter!!! how is possible?
     
    rightit, Nov 23, 2007 IP
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    #31
    I think that guy has gone crazy....how can this happen :(
     
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  12. SirPsychoSexy

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    #32
    It's India... why is everyone surprised. :rolleyes:
     
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    #33
    I know that you hate all these things, but have to tell you, incest can happen not with only parents and their childs , but any relative person, what about brother and sister? I can imagine both persons wanting it, where would you stick your power in this case?

    We started talking about force/power, because you say incest is impossible without it. I say it is possible and there are cases when both sides want it, not just one forces the other.

    It's irrelevant to post when you dont know 100% what incest is. Surely its easier to just call someone a pedophilian or whatever and kill the bastard. But its xxi century, it doesnt work like that.
     
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  14. northpointaiki

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    #34

    N_F_S, not sure why you choose to attempt this lame dissembling argument.

    We are not engaging in an academic exercise on the subject of incest. We are specifically discussing a father impregnating his daughter. Hence, any discussion but what centers on this action is irrelevant to the discussion, which is that a father, who as I said is in a position of power by definition:

    - committed incest (and, I would surmise, pedophilia) on his daughter, whom he was by nature honor-bound to protect.

    I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt, in that English may not be your primary language. If you choose to continue, you do so revealing your own stand on the subject, in substance.
     
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  15. N_F_S

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    #35
    Lets end on this. But dont call someone a pedophilian when you dont have enough info on the case, you still did not show me where it says that the daughter is underage.
     
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    #36
    It doesn't matter. Irrelevant. When protein indicated "pedophilia," you dismissed his claim out of hand, saying it wasn't done by force. In other words, by your logic, no force, no pedophilia. I countered, and have remained firm in my point of view, that pedophilia doesn't require the use force, but does depend on an abuse of power.

    This father abused the trust placed in him by his daughter, and such trust is endemic to any father daughter relationship. He did so utilizing the unequal share of power that is also endemic to a father-child relationship. Hence, your point has been irrelevant from the beginning.
     
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  17. polite

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    #37
    Weird, and even more he is covering up his lust by telling every one it was command of god..

    can any Indian let us know what punishment he will get for such a crime? if he didn't got killed by mob of people.
     
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    #38
    Just a note...Eastern countries especially south Asian countries has different standards for pedophilia, in far away places of those countries girls gets married at the age of 15-16, even in some cases 13. Good thing is that situation is changing now.
     
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  19. northpointaiki

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    #39
    Polite, respectfully, since this is a father and a daughter we're talking about, this isn't relevant. But, regarding pedophilia and world standards, the International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems, a World Health Organization publication, defines pedophila as "a sexual preference for children, boys or girls or both, usually of prepubertal or early pubertal age."

    I rarely take an absolute stand, and try to consider cultural norms and practices when judging things. But in the case of pedophilia, I do have a line drawn in the sand. I think any adult engaging in sex with a kid is a scumbag, wherever it takes place. Anything else, in my opinion, is mere apologetics for a thing that destroys young lives.

    Again, not relevant here, since this is a father and his daughter.
     
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  20. janneke

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    #40
    this is sssoooo discuting. That man has commited rape and is a pedofile in my eyes. sorry to say but he truly is.
     
    janneke, Nov 23, 2007 IP