Sorry dude - I don't see it. WebCEO has a PR7 and 95 pages in the cache. Help me understand how this is banned?? PS - did you use quotes in your query? the site command doesn't work that way.
Sorry, Phynder... I was wrong... I meant to say: try googling "www.webceo.com" or see "cache:www.webceo.com" or simply google for the "webceo" keyword - you won't see www.webceo.com in SERPs
Okay - still not sure that makes them banned... What about SEOElite? They are number one for "seo software" - a much more likely search.
Well, that's a weird story, and I don't know everything. But in the end of April their website was banned by Google (removed from SERPs for ALL their keywords including "seoelite" and/or "seo elite", removed from cache, etc.) - and you can see a proof here at Threadwatch. I don't know how (can't even imagine how ), but they managed to come back But I can't (well, I suppose nobody but Google engineers can) guarantee that they won't be banned once again
Well, I don't know for sure... Perhaps Google was broken; perhaps seoelit.com was banned simply for using various black-hat techniques like *hidden links*, etc - and then came back after if got rid of some (but unfortunately not all) of them; and probably google was testing some kind of its new algos... Who knows?
BTW, Phynder, seems like we can continue our conversation in this new thread (well, at least it would be interesting to see what other people think) Seems like we're a bit off-topic here
hi, as far as i know it ain`t very helpfull to build 100 links in one day. it is much more sensefull to build links easy and slow.. susan
After being dugg i went from 3 to over 6000 backlinks in under one week. Google loved it! But yet again these were all natural links. If you are submiting to a bunch of directories you should be fine because your links will have to be moderated first which takes time.
More info here http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=86690 But im not giving my url away quite yet.
The big difference between their SEO software and mine is that theirs was querying the search engines to find SERPs and was abusing the hardware because of it. I mean think about it: Imagine just 2000 users with say 20 keywords per site and an average of 5 sites per user. That's 200,000 searches. Imagine they do this every other week on average. Would you like to have an automated bit of software querying your site 400,000 times a month (13,000 page hits a day) with no chance of generating revenue from it? Even if your page is onlt 10k, that's 130MB of bandwidth per day or 4GB a month! All for "non-paying customers" so to speak. I ban IPs from my sites for less, and I have 500GB of bandwidth. Mine helped authors submit articles to article directories and provided a link back to the software's download page so that others could fiind the software too. Mine did not interact with the search engines at all. However, like you say, I may wake up and find myself banned one day, but I'd give 1000 to 1 odds that it won't be anytime soon and that it will have nothing to do with Article Distributor. Think of this another way. If too many links too fast can get a site banned, we'd all form a big club and link to our competitors to get them booted out of the search engines. Then we'd reign supreme. Do you really think Google would allow that? Instead of regurgitating rumors, think things through logically. No matter how broken Google/MSN/Yahoo may be, they pay a lot of smart people to do just that.
Tym, I 'm quite agree with all your arguments. And I'm trying to think logically, no kidding As for seo software, I can say that most of them allow using Google API (which is legitimate according to Google TOS), so *de jure* these tools are clean And, please, calm down, Tym... I'm not trying to regurgitate rumors at all. Remember - at the very beginning FireStorM asked "can anyone tell me if submitting to many directories fast (like 100 a day) is not good for Google?" - and I just said that in my opinion this could hurt IF THESE LINKS ARE NOT ORGANIC or at least doesn't look like organic to Google - that's all...
Oh I am calm. I just get a littel discouraged by bogus info. I know these links do not look natural, but I think the only difference that will make is to possibly require more age before they get counted or perhaps they get dampened, or some other not positive but not negetive thing may occur. My link popularity tracking with marketleap offers some evidence that one of the two (or both) may be true, because My link popularity shoots up for about a month then drops by 50% before shooting up more again only to drop by 50% again. Like I say, I'm very anxious to see what G's next update brings. I don't believe in getting too many links too fast. Logic tells me that no penalty could exist for such a thing, organic link or not. As for the Google API, my API code limits me to 1000 queries a day. I know many tools are similar because they require you to have your own API code. This is legitimate, but it also gives Google a way to track individual abusers, so instead of banning an entire tool, they can ban an individual user (at least for the day). A few years ago, many SEO tools did not use the Google APIs, so it was impossible to find individual abusers, and their only recourse was to ban the tool.
I've never submitted my site to any directories. I've always just relied on my own network of sites to bring new sites to the SE's attention. Google, Yahoo, and MSN has never failed to index my new sites within a week. If I'm lucky, I can usually get them in in a matter of 2-3 days.
Hm... What about http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/indexing-timeline/ (especially the "Reading current feedback" section)?
@jackburton I usually get indexed that day. it is all about knowing a directory owner who will accept you that day (they gotta get crawled daily though)
Ok...what about it? He talks about one site that appears fine now. A couple that had outbound links to unrelated sites. One that stupidly used the URL removal tool. And one that was essentially a scraper site. I'm failing to see how any of those relate to the topic at hand. Nothing about organic or natural links. Nothing about getting inbound links too fast. Care to elucidate?