Fast backlinks and Google

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by FireStorM, May 25, 2006.

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    Building many backlinks fast is good for msn/yahoo , can anyone tell me if submitting to many directories fast ( like 100 a day) is not good for Google?
     
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  2. Phynder

    Phynder Well-Known Member

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    That is a good question that I don't know the answer to, but:

    - Not all directories will approve your link in one day or one week - some take as long as a couple of months. So, even if you submit to 100 directories in a day, not all links will be live in one day.

    - Some directories are ginormous. It takes Google quite some time to crawl all the directories that you have submitted to - and my guess is that Google will pretty much not exactly sense that you had submitted to 100 directories in one day if it takes 100 days to crawl and discover all the links.

    I would love to hear other opinions!
     
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  3. FireStorM

    FireStorM Well-Known Member

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    Very true Phynder. Any more ideas plz?
     
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    Try not to get too many too quickly. Google may flag it as spam
     
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    keep several variations of the link text and descriptions with you and submit a different anchor and description to each directory (if you are submitting manually)

    Google usually penalizes if you have hundereds of same links all of a sudden. Which could mean you have bought them. If you are submitting to 100 directories, keep 10 variations for submitting, and you wont have more than 10 links for each link text and description. :cool:
     
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  6. Phynder

    Phynder Well-Known Member

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    That makes to most sense and if you are doing it yourself, then it is easy. There are several "directory submission" services out there that will alternate several different anchors for submissions - which will reduce the potential risk. Good point rosiee!
     
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  7. Tim_Myth

    Tim_Myth Peon

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    Thanks to a program I wrote, I averaged about 1000 links a day for 4 months. My site is alive and well with a PR of 5 and 768 backlinks to the page in question. If there's such a things as too many too fast, it must be one helluva speed limit.
     
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  8. Phynder

    Phynder Well-Known Member

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    was it 3 months or 4 months? Either way - 120,000 links? How many links are you showing in MSN and Yahoo? 120K links sounds crazy! Please please don't tell me it involved SPAMMING blog comments...
     
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    tim, mind sharing the program ;)
     
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    How did you get so many links so quickly?
     
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    FireStorM Well-Known Member

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    Seems a good program
     
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  12. Tim_Myth

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    The program was Article Distributor. It was an app that helped authors quickly submit articles to article directories. Rather than charging for it, I had the software place a small bit of text at the end of the author's resource box saying "Submitted with Article Distributor" (see this for current indexing: http://www.google.com/search?source...GLD:en&q="submitted+with+article+distributor" ) In 4 months time (and before the Big Daddy update plunged thousands of pages into the supplimental index) there were 120,000 occurances of that phrase. Google reports 768 backlinks for that page. I'm anxious to see what the next update brings (the software was released on Dec 3rd of 2005).
     
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    Phynder Well-Known Member

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    Crafty! Great idea - I hope that works out for you. Hmmmm... Now I need to think of a cool idea like that!
     
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    any way to get my hands on that?
     
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  15. podman

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    Hey,

    I have seen in blogs that google bands some sites for having to many link to it, they do this if one site gets loads of links over a short period of time. We are talking 100’s of links in just one day.

    If you do it over a period of time you should be ok if it’s a new site it will be sandboxed anyway

    Thanks

    Dan
     
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    Tim_Myth, you idea may lead you to some things that already happend to WebCeo and Web Position - they were BANNED by Google. The same thing happend to SEO Elite.

    This is all because they were leaving too much traces, I suppose. The same thing with all those link networks like linkmachin, etc - they can be easily identified - and I suppose one day they'll also get banned.

    What is more - my personal opinion that one day Google may try to *punish* everyone who uses this B.S. So, I prefer using tools that leave NO TRACES at all.
     
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  17. Phynder

    Phynder Well-Known Member

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    I don't think you understand what Tim is doing. He is providing a tool for free, but as part of the submission process adds a link back to his web site. It has nothing to do with "SEO" software. He is using software to SEO - a big difference.
     
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    I do understand what he is doing.
    And I'm absolutely not sure that Tim will end up banned - I was just trying to predict one of the many possible situations. You see, he gets many (probably too many) links too quick... As far as I understand, SeoEilite and others didn't use their own products for their own optimization - they just sold that software, people simply generated pages, but those pages contained links to, say, SeoElite's website... That's it... They were simply using their software to SEO - so where's the big difference you're talking about?
     
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    Phynder Well-Known Member

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    I have SEOElite and it doesn't create pages, so we are talking past each other. The discussion you linked to talks about banning SOFTWARE from querying the search engines - NOT banning their websites.
     
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    ???
    Sites of WebCeo, Web Position, etc are banned. Try googling "site:www.webceo.com" - you'll find... nothing... Or perhaps I simply don't understand you? :confused:
     
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