FALSE CHRISTIANITY, ISLAM, and AFRICAN SLAVERY

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  1. Alter2Ego

    Alter2Ego Well-Known Member

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    #21
    ALTER2EGO -to- REBECCA:
    Of course you're attempting to minimize it. Why else would you try to compare white-on-white slavery with white-on-black slavery, as if to say they were identical when according to the record of history they clearly were not? Blacks were dehumanized and kept in bondage for centuries. White slaves were not.



    ALTER2EGO -to- REBECCA:
    You are proving my point. You are attempting to minimize what was done to black people and the destruction done to Africa by people who went there claiming they were good Christians and then proceed to colonize the African Continent and steal its wealth (diamonds, oil, rubber, etc.).

    There's blame to go around, true enough. However, the corrupt African kings who sold their own people to whites cannot compare with the whites who did the raping, whipping, chopping off the limps of slaves who rebelled, and kept people enslaved for 400 years. And let's not forget, it was the Europeans that claimed they were pious Christians and that they were more intelligent than those they enslaved. So they had a duty to live up to a higher standard. It turns out, they were nothing but scum.

    What intelligent person will brand another human being like cattle, rape, whip, and cripple those they enslave, and the entire time insist they are doing God's will and that they will gain a heavenly reward? That's what the "superior" European "Christians" did. They sound exactly like the crazy Islamists who commit human rights violations, kill innocent people, and then insist they will get a heavenly reward. Two different kinds of crazy.
     
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  2. Mikaël2

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    #22


    What three questions ?
    :p

    In other words - "Arab Muslims had enslaved blacks ... Islam is to blame. " ... "European Christians enslaved ...Christianity is NOT to blame."

    Am I right ?
     
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    #23
    ALTER2EGO -to- MIKAËL:
    The same questions I asked you at Post #12 and Post #18. Since you've suddenly gone selectively blind, I am posting them below again.



    3rd TIME ASKING.


    ALTER2EGO -to- MIKAËL:
    Exactly, that's what history shows. False religion is capable of anything. They prove their falsehood by their idolatrous form of worship and their fondness for quoting scriptures out-of-context and then routinely applying the incorrect meaning to it. When shown their error, they refuse to back down.

    Just like the European "Christians," the Arab Muslims erroneously applied the curse against Canaan to blacks, as if their corrupt behinds were fit to be punishing anybody. Muslim Arabs have a long, sordid history of pedophilia and idolatry and human rights violations. I will present some as the thread continues. The point being, Muslim Arabs were hardly the instrument God would have used to punish other sinners since they started off with always having unclean hands. What you have with the Muslim Arabs and the European "Christians" who
    —despite their own rottenness and false religious beliefs claimed they were God's instrument for the punishment of blacks—is a perfect example of the pot calling the kettle black. To think, they had the audacity to assume they were being used by God to level punishment on blacks. Never mind that the Biblical curse against Canaan's descendants had nothing whatsoever to do with black skin.


    ALTER2EGO -to- MIKAËL:
    It depends what the Bible describes as "Christianity" vs. what YOU think is Christianity. Go read Post 8 and you will see that I told Rebecca the following.


    QUESTION #4 to MIKAËL: Did you notice the type of European "Christians" I described to Rebecca. It starts with the letter "f" and comes right after the opening words: "The issue of this thread is ______ European Christians...." Go back and read it a few times, and maybe it will sink in.


    QUESTION #5 to MIKAËL: Do you understand the meaning of the word "fake"?
     
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    ALTER2EGO -to- REBECCA:
    Notice the word in bold and red within your closing statement. The word "was" refers to past tense, something that is no more. Or could it be you are not familiar with English grammar? My point is: why are you quoting what the founding members of Jehovah's Witnesses said in 1929—as if it is written in stone? The Watchtower Bible & Tract Society has made many corrections over the years following research into the facts of history. Unlike many religions that try to hide their mistakes, they are very good at publicly announcing corrected understanding of previous matters.

    That quotation you presented above was debunked by the Watchtower Society more than 40 years ago. They publicly corrected it after they researched the record of history and realized the error of those that made the statement you quoted above. The historical record shows the curse against Canaan had nothing whatsoever to do with black skin. I will present a detailed exposé on that matter at some later time.

    To make a long story short, if you were attempting to give Jehovah's Witnesses a black eye by digging up what they erroneously printed almost a century ago, you failed.


    Try again.
     
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    #25
    I don't answer loaded questions.

    Next you will ask me to get you a cup of tea ?


    In other words 'Christians who have slaves are fake Christians.' 'Muslims with slaves are real Muslims.' Fantastic.




     
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    #27
    your god practices slavery. he enslaved jesus and nailed him on the cross.


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    ALTER2EGO -to- MIKAËL:
    Yes, that's it exactly. The Judeo-Christian Bible has been proven to be the inspired Word of God by means of nearly 2,000 accurately fulfilled prophecies. In turn, the Judeo-Christian Bible contains instructions for true Christians to follow. The only religion acceptable to Jehovah, according to his inspired Word the Bible, is Christianity, which was founded by his beloved son, Jesus Christ. Those that claim they are Christians (meaning followers of Jesus Christ) but pursue false religious teachings that are not in harmony with Christian teachings found in the Bible are fake Christians. Therefore, their criminal behaviors is not representative of true Christians. Jesus, the leader of all Christians, said as much, as noted below. Keep your eyes on the words in bold print in the below scriptural quotation.


    "{21} Not everyone saying to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. {22} Many will say to me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?' {23} And yet then I will confess to the: I never knew you! Get away from me, you WORKERS OF LAWLESSNESS." (Matthew 7:21-23)


    QUESTION #6 to MIKAËL: At Matthew 7:23, Jesus Christ referred to fake Christians as "workers of lawlessness;" did he not? YES or NO?


    QUESTION #7 to MIKAËL: If Jesus could say the above about people who claim they are Christians, what do you suppose he would say about Muslims who clearly are not following Christian teachings?


    QUESTION #8 to MIKAËL: Since Muslims reject Christ as the Messiah in preference for a Muslim Arab named Muhammad, how do you suppose Jehovah God views anyone who has rejected his son as Mediator. Base your response on the verses of scriptures below.


    "{10} let it be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel, that in the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene, whom you impaled but whom God raised up from the dead, by this one does this man stand here sound in front of you. {12} Furthermore, there is no salvation in anyone else, for there is not another name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved." (Acts 4:10 and 12)


    ~***~
     
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    #29
    There is no reason whatsoever to justify slavery. Both Bible and Koran say it's ok. Race got nothing to do with this, first slaves were whites and middle-easterners. Besides many Negroes in Africa are still slaves. Many even die from hunger, because no one wants them as a property.
     
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    #30
    "Therefore all things whatsoever would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them" - Matthew 7:12

    "Love your neighbor as you love yourself." - Deuteronomy 6:5

    Two rules forbidding evil acts by Christians upon others . Yep that definitely looks like an OK :rolleyes:
     
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    #31
    Deuteronomy 6/5 : and thou shalt love Jehovah thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

    Nothing about " thy neighbor", you see? Please note that the name of the god is specified. Without it we wouldn't know which god is ours, since there were thousands of them at the time this particular piece of propaganda was written.
     
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    The sentence is in the Bible and as recital of the ten commandments by Jesus Himself "Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself" Matthew 7:12 . Same phrase is repeated by the Apostle Paul in Romans 13:10 .
     
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    #33
    I know its there, you just messed up as usual. I kind of doubt that the ancient Jews considered their slaves to be their " neighbors " though.
     
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