Fact or Fiction: 'Ronbots' Are Everywhere? What Is A 'Ronbot'??

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by gemini181, Oct 11, 2007.

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    FYI: Dr. Ron Paul is running for USA president in 2008.

    If you want to know about what he actually speaks and writes, here is a massive archive which documents a truly brilliant man.
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    Fact or Fiction: 'Ronbots' Are Everywhere?
    What Is A 'Ronbot'??

    1. Fact: After the early Sept. debate Fox 'news' was caught clearly lying about Dr. Paul winning the post debate cell phone poll...
    2. ...only one vote was allowed per cell phone, and Hannity clearly lied about this on live TV.
    3. Don't believe me? ...
    4. Well...
    5. ...Just "You Tube It" and find out for yourself.

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    The above is only one honest example of the media lying to hide Ron Paul's historically interesting level of support.

    Fact or Fiction: 'Ronbots' Are Everywhere?
    • I saw someone (here at DP) claim yesterday, "Ron Paul spammers are already on every corner of the Internet"
    • If nothing else...
    • This proves a lot of people are excited about respecting the USA constitution.

    Many people are finally ready for real change.

    [​IMG]

    http://www.ronpaul2008.com

    Congressman Ron Paul: Archives (Dr. Ron Paul in his own words and brilliant writings)

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    What Is A 'Ronbot'??
    • Obama got caught using a spambot to inflate his You Tube views...
    • After getting caught, the story just seemed to disappear (I'm pretty sure the above claim is true)
    • Dr. Ron Paul's supporters see a unique chance to offer the American people a change...
    • ...
    • Freedom, based on a constitution...
    • Wow!!!
    • What a radical idea :eek: :rolleyes: :p

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    Fact or Fiction:
    'Ronbots' Are Everywhere?
    What Is A 'Ronbot'??


    • [*]Is it wrong or right for USA citizens to desire a free country?
      [*]What is 'freedom', without personal liberty?
     
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  2. Briant

    Briant Peon

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    They keep crying about spammers, when they know some of these polls prevent it. They also know there is a saying, "freep that poll." These guys who complains the most have been doing this for a long time. They are just angry because they cannot control the internet (they sure are trying though). As for their "legit" polls...they are full of holes.
     
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    davewashere Active Member

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    Ho-hum, we've been here before. Howard Dean was huge on the internet in 2004. The problem is, the early primary states tend to be less tech-savvy than DP or Digg members. Dean was shocked by that stooge John Kerry in the New Hampshire primary, had a total meltdown, and his campaign was pretty much obliterated in a span of 24 hours. The Ron Paul phenomenom will not be legitimized until his supporters can help him win an early primary. Remember, online and phone polls count about as much as Democrat's vote in Florida.
     
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    Briant Peon

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    And with Diebold, everyone's vote may count for about as much.
     
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    Paulbots:

    http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=409220

    Here's a list of all the polls the paulbots would like you to vote in. remember, the site strongly recommends:
    But goes out of its way to tell you the methods to do it. :D

    Enjoy!
     
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    guerilla Notable Member

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    Interesting update on this. Apparently the Rasmussen polls have Ron Paul under "Other", which makes it pretty impressive he has broken the 4% barrier. Several Polls have excluded Paul completely, making his 1% showings strictly based on callers declaring ala a write in. Of course, if he isn't named on the poll, many people will assume that he isn't on the poll at all.

    The real polls are the bonafide straw polls, like the Texas GOP poll that required folks to be delegates in the last electoral cycle. These are essentially, "unspammable".
     
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    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    Followup time!

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/21257762?__source=RSS*blog*&par=RSS

    But the support is all genuine!
     
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    Don't ruin my jokes :mad: :D
     
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    Who would have thought that a guy who wants to ignore the problem of Muslims being at war with everyone who isn't Muslim has the support of people who are at war with everyone who isn't white?
     
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    Lorien, I've already addressed this, and the CNBC editor has been addressed by phone and email as well.

    There is no such thing as referrer spamming when it comes to these Polls. If it isn't multiple votes from the same useragent/IP, then they were not spammed, Ron Paul supporters were simply able to put more people towards the poll, as they consistently have been able to do for months. As they have been able to do in Straw polls all over the country, and as they are now able to do in rallies like the 1400 in Tennessee last weekend, 1,000 at the Michigan debate, and 2,000 at the University of Michigan. You don't see any other candidate drawing these sorts of crowds at the schools, except perhaps Barack Obama.

    This, is how you in elections. You get a lot of people to vote for you.

    The question posed by numerous people back to the editor is that if Rudy Giuliani is the front runner, why did he only have 160-odd votes in the online poll? Is this a reflection of his tiny MySpace and Facebook communities, or is the Paul vote a reflection of 1,000 MeetUp groups and the largest social networks (MySpace, YouTube, FaceBook) of the Republicans?

    Surely Rudy has more than 160-odd online supporters? or does McCain really have less than 100? It wasn't possible to spam away others votes...

    There is a lot of apathy in the Republican party, and Ron Paul is the one driving interest, activism and Republican membership registration. The fund raising bears it out, the campuses bear it out, and now the media is starting to bear it out.

    Ron Paul actually had live coverage in the spin room via justin.tv, that streaming channel peaked around 700 viewers at one point, but perhaps people are logging in to justin.tv via spam right?

    I'd expect more from so-called knowledgeable webmasters, unless they are digging for a way to discredit the movement.
     
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    Iraq invaded Kuwait. Iraq and Iran had a war. Turkey has just invaded Iraq.

    What is this nonsense about Islamic solidarity?
     
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    I know. CNBC looking at their logs and seeing people come in as requested to vote is meaningless isn't it ;)

    http://wiki.ronpaulpresshub.com/index.php?title=Polls

    No such thing! And that no such thing as spamming is also strongly discouraged! ;)
     
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    Do you understand how referrer spam works?

    Because the connection you are trying to draw would make stumbleupon or digg traffic referrer spam.

    What I am saying is that they did not say the votes were coming from the same IPs. They said the votes were coming from the same websites. Surely you are enough of a webmaster to know the difference?

    You're normally much better than this, and would have been able to dissect the argument from CNBC without being led by me.

    All you have done is prove that the Ron Paul online community doesn't advocate spamming.
     
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    Much in the same sense that hackers tell people how not to break into computers; but then go out of their way to tell hem -how- to do it if they really wanted. I getcha.

    Of course there is a difference. But, much like Digg doesn't like people saying "digg this for me" because it inflates the values; online polls are susceptible to the same thing "hey vote for me in this poll" - don't you agree and isn't that just common sense?

    You are basing your argument from some news guy summarizing the events. I suggest you take a step back and wonder "hey, why would cnbc care if people come and visit" - doesn't the poll being removed (by cnbc of all websites) tell you that just a little more was going on than you'd try to suggest?

    Actually, your better analogy is: people posting a thread on this forum say "hey, digg this" then the digg story getting dugg up. Then everyone piling in on Digg - which, from what I've understand they are working on because it does inflate some stories more than others because people are just clicking what they think other people are clicking on.

    So you are just making my case the paulbots are playing a game of follow the leader. I thought everyone else was a sheeple ;)
     
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    The problem with all of this stupidity is that every other candidate can rally support. And as I mentioned the "freepers" are notorious for this behavior. This is just sour grapes. Nothing Ron Paul says or does will change anything for them. Unless of course he gets brain-damaged somehow and says, "Hey, now that I (don't) think about it, the war in Iraq is a great idea."
     
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    We have Ronbots loose on DP.....










    :D
     
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    Basically, I'm reading that the Paulites being organized and showing up en masse to vote in polls is a problem. No one has suggested any improprieties, except that RP sites are driving the votes.

    The next argument will be that when Paulites show up to vote at the Primaries, if they do better than the polls, then they must have somehow spammed the primaries. I mean, that's logical, because if it doesn't conform to the phone polls, then it cannot be an accurate result.

    And yet no one can explain to me, including CNBC's editor, how neither Giuliani or McCain were unable to match their phone poll %s, in fact doing far far worse. I'm not just talking about %s but %s of the total vote, or actual votes for these candidates.

    CNBC admits that the viewership of the debate was enormous, so again, if the viewership is so high, and no one is voting for McCain or Giuliani, then what conclusion can we draw from the high RP #s?

    Perhaps a lot of Ron Paul fans were watching the debate. Or maybe they spammed their TVs... :rolleyes:
     
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    Indeed it is. :)
     
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    gemini181 Well-Known Member

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    The 2,000 people who showed up at the U of Michigan were just holograms
    • Keep this in mind every time Dr. Paul draws a big crowd in the real world. ;)
     
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