Expired Domains - Huge Difference

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    Im sure you all read about if you are going to start up a new site it is best to pick up an expiring domain and work with that. Well (for me) finding a domain to go buy is always time consuming and I usually give up and just register a new one.

    Then one day I found a nice domain the owner was going to let expire so I picked it up from him. The domain was registered since 2001 and had great solid backlinks. I thought I would give it a try and see what happens.

    So I got the domain www.statiksound.com and quickly threw up a lyrics site. My intention when I bought it was just to use for backlinks for some of my sites. When I started out in November of last year with it I started to optimize for the keywords "Music Lyrics". Now this keyword is highly competitive so I really didnt think I would get too far. I did very little link building for this site with the exception of directories.

    Now to my suprise the next PR update it gave a bunch of my inner pages a decent PR. I know for a new site 1 1/2 months before PR update probably wouldnt even got a PR for the homepage.

    Finally a few days ago I noticed that I am on the first page now for "Music Lyrics". Now to accomplish that with a fresh domain in 4 months with the little amount of work I put into it would be close to impossible.

    Point being is listen to the advice that people are giving about using an aged domain when making a site. For me it made a huge difference.
     
    aaron_nimocks, Mar 28, 2007 IP
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  2. AfterHim.com

    AfterHim.com Peon

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    Wow, I see it at #10 on google currently...
     
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  3. aaron_nimocks

    aaron_nimocks Im kind of a big deal Staff

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    I see it at #9. :)
     
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    #5
    make sure you know the history of the domain first before you buy.
     
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  6. aaron_nimocks

    aaron_nimocks Im kind of a big deal Staff

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    What helped from my domain is I had steady links going to it for years. Its more about the age of backlinks then it is about he age of the domain I think.
     
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  7. SEOBoy

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    #7
    Thats what I had been thinking too.
    But, will there be any difference between a new domain name and a old domain name? If not, then should we simply prefer Keyword Rich Domain Name?
     
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    stats Well-Known Member

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    I bought expired domains with PR too .. and they did have links to them from articles which the previews owner wrote and posted. However i don't see any huge different.

    Well, of course it's not like a brand-new domain with ZERO visitors, but it's not a "great idea" either.

    I think when the domain expires, the SEs reset all the credits (backlinks, keywords, etc) the site has.

    one thing i didn't do though, is i didn't bother myself to do much linking on those domains myself.

    Also, one difference may be that i bought ALREADY expired domains, and not "expiring soon" .. so there was a gap between the domain's expiration and re-registration date .. that may be a bad thing too
     
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    Yes I agree the age of the backlinks is a very important factor in Search Engine ranking.
     
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    This look logical to me. I mean, instead of giving importance to age of domain, giving importance to the age of backlinks.
     
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    And Aaron: Cogradulations.

    What is the traffic you are getting from that position currently?

    Actually i have recently bought a three year old domain and waiting PR update to see the results.. But it was not so strong in terms of backlinks :(
     
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    stats Well-Known Member

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    you better buy domains with lot of links rather then PR

    The PR is mostly fake or comes from 1-2 strong links which will soon or late remove the expired site ..

    and as a personal guess of mine, when the domain expires the search engines discard the ranking that comes from outside links .. maybe after that they re-include that ranking, but at least for the begining i didn't really feel that my domain has 200 links showing in yahoo (those were many different articles posted by the previewous owner)
     
    stats, Apr 5, 2007 IP
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    I like to read it. I have recently purchased around 45 domains. I set directories at 30 of them. Next PR is comming soon, lets see what happens.

    BTW, I have invested around $1400 in all domains and get back around $900. And i think I can get the remaining money very quickly. But, i have planned to re-invest the money back in link building and seo things for these sites.

    I noticed one thing that...old domains are better. So, expired domains are worthy to buy. A word of caution.... buy after little investigation and do some quick link building. If you can...then buy 3-4 high PR links... PR6 or PR7 or PR8.

    Yeah..... it makes huge difference.
     
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    What I would also like to add Mr.Kumar, here is to add all these websites into different C-Class IP Address Hosting, that way you will see huge difference in your SERPs and rankings too.
     
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    is there any website to search for expiring domains? Or would i have to look at sites where people are selling their domains, or simply find sites that are probably going to expire soon?
     
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    #16

    There are many websites providing List of expired domain names.

    You may search for it on Namepros.com Forums
     
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    thanks, i'll look into it now
     
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    But expired domains are not the same as old domains. Expired domains will get the age from the day you buy them. nimocks are talking about a domain that did not expire.
     
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    Congratulations, mate.
    I bought a domain that had expired but was showing a PR3 (Bourgy.com)
    When I got it...the PR went to 0 (drats)

    So you definitely have to get it the way you got yours.
     
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    There is one thing VERY important to note here. Your domain did not expire. Expired domains are reset, hence loosing all rankings and PR for previous linkbuilding efforts ;)

    What you did was buy an established aged domain, very different from buying an expired domain.
     
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