Expert: "Iran Incapable of Building Nuclear Bomb"

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  1. tesla

    tesla Notable Member

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    #41
    Russia has supported Iran in getting the materials. In fact, I believe there are Russian nationals working in Iran right now.

    One of the worries from many people(including myself) is that if the US or Israel begins bombing Iran, and they kill Russian nationals in the process, it could set off a chain reaction that could lead to a major war.

    The reason I say this is because it is a FACT that China and Russia were conducting join military exercises last year. Vladimir Putin and Hu Jintao have talked about working together economically to help both China and Russia in 2006.

    To see two countries conducting joint military exercises together who have traditionally been antagonistic with the US is alarming.

    But the most important thing right now for Americans to understand is that our government needs to take care of its own country, its own people.

    Focus on protecting America. Forget about Iran. If they want to get nukes and ally themselves with China and Russia then let them.

    The US has its allies to. As long as every country stays calm and keep to themselves, there won't be a problem.

    But Bush wants to start fights with everyone, and this can lead to a major battle in which millions of people here in the US as well as other countries will die.

    I hate war. I don't want to buy a gun because I want to kill anyone. I want to buy one to protect myself, and my family. The only time a man should fight is when his country or home is invaded. That is the only time I believe a man should take up arms.

    I don't think countries should invade each other like the US did in Iraq. It isn't our business, its not our problem. The US is facing a potential economic crisis right now. We need to take care of ourselves. Leave the rest of the world to their own affairs.
     
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  2. ly2

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    #42
    Yea who cares if Iran has nukes, no biggie.
    Matter of fact we should help them get nukes.Then after we help Iran get nukes, we could give bin laden and his buddies some free nukes. That way they dont feel left out, afterall who cares who gets nukes. :rolleyes:
     
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  3. tesla

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    #43
    Now you're going overboard. I don't mean that we should help them get nukes, I think we should stay out of their business and let them run their country as they see fit.

    Why would they be stupid enough to attack us when the US has more nukes than they do? It would be suicide. Trying to tell Iran they're not allowed to have nukes is like telling your neighbor they're not allowed to carry guns because you tell them. Give me a break.
     
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    #44
    Would you burn down an embassy because of a cartoon?

    The reason we dont want them to have nukes becaue their brains work slightly differently to ours...They might use their nukes if we print an anti-muslim article in one of our newspapers...
     
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  5. tesla

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    #45
    Lol, their brains work exactly like ours. Their beliefs and culture are different. I seriously doubt they will use nukes over an anti muslim article written by us.

    But then you have to wonder why a "anti-muslim" article would be written in the first place. It would sound like someone is trying pour gasoline on the fire.

    As long as they don't attack us, there shouldn't be a problem. The problem starts when one country tries to tell another what to do.

    You know, this whole issue goes back to just minding your own business. The Bush administration has enough problems to worry about here at home to be concerned with another country's business.

    I think the US is falling apart. People are working harder and harder for less, health care and cost of the living is increasing. Why isn't Bush more worried about that than a "potential" threat from Iran?
     
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    #46
    Russia has had missiles pointed at us for 50 years.

    Are we going to give them a reason to pull the trigger by invading Iran :confused:
     
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    ROAR Well-Known Member Affiliate Manager

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    #47
    Antony---

    we all gotta die someday. You are missing the point. Russia is as scared as I (we) am (are). The ultimate game of chicken--for all of JFK/Kruschevs faults they played well. I dont have that faith in BUsh--do you?
     
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    #48
    Putin is not scared of a soul, that guy is a mad man former KGB chief :eek:

    Who do you think is sending weapons into the war zone in Iraq and is selling Iran nuclear technology right now :confused:
     
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  9. DomainWorks

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    #49
    The Russians are supplying nuclear power technology to Iran, and thus have a vested economic interest in preserving their "peaceful' nuke program. Because of that conflict, I wouldn't make policy based upon their assessment. But then again, after Iraq, it's hard to make policy based on the US CIA's assessment either. That's why it's important that the IAEA be able to continue to inspect Iran's nuke operations.
     
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  10. Arnie

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    #50
    ....which now is coming to a hault.
    Weren't and aren't Pakistan and Northkorea the supplieres?:confused:
    Russia is setting up neclear power plants for peaceful purpose; I don't think that they could afford any games this time.

    We also could say then that MS wants to sell their programs, Denmark their cheese, Germany its cars ... endless list ...
     
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    #51
    The thing people should be aware of is that the Iranian President is not the most powerful man in Iran.
    Iran's government is comprised of several intricately connected governing bodies, some of which are democratically elected and some of which operate by co-opting people based on their religious inclinations. While Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is the new President, the chief of state (or Supreme Leader) is actually Ali Hoseini-Khameni. The key point here is that the supreme leader is commander-in-chief of the armed forces and controls the Islamic Republic's intelligence and security operations; he alone can declare war.
     
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    #52
    Ah, thank you. This will be very easy. Let me begin...

    Does that include the part where their goverment aims to wipe the jews off the map? Very nice, can't wait for that to begin.


    LOL @ this one. Last time I checked muslims were not too worried about suicide or death.

    No, it's like telling deathrow inmates they are not allowed to carry guns, makes good sense. Even though the inmates say the guns are for "friendly reasons only", us with over two braincells know this to be false.

    Next>
     
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  13. tesla

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    #53
    ly2, if we try to force Iran to give up their weapons by attacking them we will start another war. If we sit back and do nothing, you're saying they will attack Israel and we will have a war anyway.

    So I guess there is no way out of this mess? It is only a matter of if Iran makes good on their threats. If the US backs off, they may settle down.

    If the US attacks, they will definitely launch a missile. Its called diplomacy. What you do is, you talk to the president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad about signing a non agression agreement.

    The Bush administration is being non diplomatic. Making threats is not a proper way of handling diplomacy. These guys need to sit down and talk things through. Negotiate.
     
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    #54
    OOOK.....

    Well I dont know about you, but I would rather kill than be killed. what do you think?
    I think, either we kill them, or we are going to be killed, so let the games begin.
    Plus I look at it like this, if we allow them to get nukes and they go ahead with their plans to nuke Israel, that means they just took out one of out allies. Now I would MUCH rather just kill them first to keep from losing our jewish buddies that are over there in the "sea of shit". Fuck Iran.

    Depends on how hard we hit them. If the U.S. and Israel hit them at the same time, I dont think they would be launching much of anything.
    And about "Mahmoud Ahmadinejad", talking to him, you can forget it. The people are out of their fucking minds, cant you see that? Why the fuck do you defend these people if youre american?
     
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    #55
    I'm not defending anyone. I just want to have a future for myself and my children if I ever have any, and having another world war is not going to make that happen.

    There is nothing wrong with peace. War should only be used as a last resort. Bush is just as mad as the president of Iran. They are both maniacs.

    Instead of using diplomacy, they want to use bombs. Haven't enough bombs been used as it is?
     
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    #56


    May I ask how these experts are so sure? Where were they for the past 15/20 years that Mullahs had a secret plan?

    there are 2 possibilities:

    1. They knew mullahs had a secret plan and didn't speak up.
    2. They didn't know and found out only after MKO revealed it.


    If the first is right then how can anybody trust them now. If the second is right then how can anybody believe that they have enough information to claim this?

    If an American with access oceans of information gets so fooled by this sources of information that look at the - let alone reading and spreading it - how could I be angry with a Afgahni who believes ...



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  17. latehorn

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    #57
    Lets not make the same mistake as we did with Pakistan, they started it by telling us that they were going to use the uranium for peaceful nuclear use but then secretly built bombs.

    Iran is doing the same thing and I'm 99% that they are building a bomb in the first place, especially since it's a big issue for them.

    Iran is not mature enough to have nukes since they have threaten to wipe of Israel from the map.

    But If you want to make a parkinglot of Jerusalem and Tel aviv then you can gladly support Ayatolla who once in 2001 said that "it takes only one bomb to wipe isreal into the sea".
     
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