Expert: "Iran Incapable of Building Nuclear Bomb"

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  1. iatbm

    iatbm Prominent Member

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    #21
    Well israel already won some wars in middle east ... maybe thats why they feel threatened ! and israel military service can raport 700 000 men and women in half hour i think. Also israel military is very disciplined and they are much much more prepared than any other country in the world
     
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    tesla Notable Member

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    #22
    I could write a book about that question. It isn't easy to answer in a few sentences. But I wil just say this:

    I think the problem the Arab world has with Israel goes back primarily to the date of its creation by the UN, which I believe was in 1948, shortly after the end of the world war.

    Despite the fact that this land once belonged to the Jews, it had since the ancient times become the home of the Palestinian people.

    Suddenly, the UN/League of Nations decides to create a separate Jewish/Arab state, and split the land between the Jews and the Palestinians.

    Well, as you can imagine, this pissed the Palestinians off, and there has been war ever since.

    Let me give you a better exampled debunk. Lets say hypothetically that the UN one day gets control over the US. It decides that it wants to split the country into to states, one for the Native American people who originally settled this land and the non native Americans.

    You can see how this could lead to an ongoing civil war, right?

    Well, this is exactly what has happened in the middle east.

    Divide and conquer. It is the oldest trick in the book and it is exactly what the UN did to the middle east.

    Put ethnic groups together who are hostile to each other because you know they are going to fight and kill each other.

    Iran sees Israel as being a tool of the UN, and that is the reason I think they have an issue with them.
     
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  3. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

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    #23
    But Israel barely has the time to even defend itself, so why are they a threat to anyone else?
     
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    #24
    1. if that happened in the US, I wouldn't know which state I belonged in... I guess I would have to kill myself for being such a mutt (mixed races)

    2. 99% of the UN hates Israel..... Look at the votes they have had in the last 5 years. The US is the only one who stood up for Israel in a couple of votes.
     
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  5. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #25
    Wow, had to go all the way to Russia for this one! I can't *imagine* why someone involved with Russian nuclear technology {cough...Russia is assisting Iran...cough} would have such a powerful insight :rolleyes:

    http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/01/31/D8FG37780.html

    Of course, this {cough} expert's opinion disagree with Iran's own claims:

    http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/02/02/D8FHBT681.html

    See signature...
     
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  6. iatbm

    iatbm Prominent Member

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    #26
    you are so wrong ... israelis everything happened before world war 2 not 48 !!
    Just check a little jewish history ... what they declared in 19th century in Argentina. Middle east is their land too you know !
     
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  7. tesla

    tesla Notable Member

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    #27
    I'm just going by what was put in Wikipedia: "The Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel, May 14, 1948, was the official announcement that a new Jewish state, newly-named as the State of Israel (Medinat Yisrael in Hebrew), had been formally established in the British Mandate of Palestine, the land where the Kingdom of Israel and the Kingdom of Judah had once been."

    The land did belong to the Jewish people in antiquity. But people lose and gain land all the time, just like any other physical object.

    I personally believe in the "balance of power theory" when it comes to nuclear weapons.

    Basically, the genie is out of the bottle. The technology exists, and as long as the "knowlege" exists on how to build a nuke, sooner or later every country is going to get their hands on one.

    Why try to stop Iran? Let them have the nukes. If they try to attack anyone with it, then they will just have to prepare themselves to be attacked.

    But attacking them because they are "trying" to get a nuke is insane to me personally. Why try to stop the inevitable?
     
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    iatbm Prominent Member

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    #28
    i agree. It is their right to build such powerfull weapons.
    My personal opinion is they shouldnt ! There is to much of this weapon in the world at this moment that we dont really need one country more to have it.
    We should really concentrate to use nuclear power for other things, since this is the cleanest power.
     
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  9. Edz

    Edz Peon

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    #29
    Tesla wrote:
    Makes sense :rolleyes:
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #30
    North America belongs to Red Indians, anybody likes to dispute that?

    Let's put all the white people in boats and send them back to Europe, so they can live in refugee camps. :rolleyes:
     
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    iatbm Prominent Member

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    #31
    You so much missed the point sadly. To compare what i said and indians in america is very ignorant
     
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  12. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #32
    Israel was Israel long before islam was invented. Let's take all those lands conquered by the sword for centuries and give them back too.

    Where would you go back to? Iran?
     
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  13. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #33
    Including yourself?

    By the way, wherever a real believer walks, that territory belongs to the Lord then.
     
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    ly2 Notable Member

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    #34
    Yeah, that makes LOTS of sense. :rolleyes: Good one.

    Thats like saying:
    "why not allow your 4 year old child to say bad words? It's going to happen eventually, why not let them do it now?"

    gimme a break. they don't want them for power, they want them to kill people who don't follow the "Koran". That's OK, before they get their hands on a nuke they will end up getting nuked. No body, and i mean NO BODY is going to allow these maniacs to get fucking nukes. If all else fails, the Jews will nuke em. I guarantee the Jews aren't going to let Iran get nukes. :)

    The world is better off without places like Iran anyhow...
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #35
    Why? Territories change hand all the time. That's what is war for. Just look at Iraq, until couple of years ago, it was an independent country while today is a colony. ;)
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #36
    I was just showing th stupidity of such arguments and the question will be: believer in what? If you mean Jesus, Israel is not a Christian country or may be you didn't know that. :rolleyes:
     
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    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #37
    Can you expect a land for that you have to pay taxes as your own? So, who are the owners ;)
     
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    tesla Notable Member

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    #38
    Yeah, and when Israel fires on Iran guess what China and Russia will do? Israel will get themselves blown off the map. The military in the US is weak and overextended in other countries, and many Americans(including myself) refuse to go fight in foreign wars when we have a government who lies about why we are over there fighting.

    Vladimir Putin just go on the news recently and talked about Russia's missile capabilities. He is sending a message to the US that they are walking on a thin line with Iran, especially after the mess in Iraq.

    The top Chinese generals have already said they will nuke the US if they have to. And Iran is working closely with both these countries.

    Please. Just let Iran have the nukes. I don't want to have another world war just because one country wants weapons it is going to get sooner or later.

    Please explain to me what a 4 year old has in common with Iran? :rolleyes:
     
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    #39
    Just now looks the guy with a most number of guns is the owner. ;)
     
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    #40
    You really think that china and russia supporting iran for getting their nukes?

    I doubt that

    There are muscle showings all around, including France, USA, China, Russia and more.

    Israel has not mentioned to use its nukes yet, unlike those mentioned above.
     
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