Agreed. To help the Yahoo feller out, to check links for Google's PR, you have to go elsewhere to find what Google might be indexing but not publishing. My favorite is: http://www.submitexpress.com/linkpop/
I dont get it, why didnt people use seologs to find out its fake http://www.seologs.com/pr-check/pagerank.html?url=http://www.hvlabs.net/ ?
I've found that seologs is good most of the time. Just recently I used seolog's tool and it passed this site: http://www.otto-graf.com/ But when you check the backlinks, you find that there is no way this site is going to have a PR6 in the next update. Unless of course he acquires some back links quickly. There are a couple ways to fake PRs. The redirect type (like in the first post of this thread), and the expired domain type. The url in this post (otto-graf) is most certainly an expired domain with leftover PR. There is probably other ways, but with my limited experience, I only know of the two types of fake PR.
that's the redirects right? <a href="http://redirect.alexa.com/redirect?http://www.property-search-international.com/"> Property Sales France </a>| <a href=http://redirect.alexa.com/redirect?http://www.azurvillasonline.biz/>
the topic of the thread is faked pr, that has nothing to do with yahoo, yahoo backlinks have no effect on google pr, so no matter how many yahoo backlinks u have it wont affect pr, when i checked google backlinks for the site above (to see if it had any real backlinks) google showed me none.
oh dear, oh dear. google does not show all of the backlinks they know about. yahoo generally does. all of the backlinks shown in yahoo, google will almost certainly know about, whether they want to tell you or not. understand now?
i know that already but how often do u see a site with pr7 with no backlinks, even if the pr is redirected normally a site has at least one backlink in google (unless it is a) banned or b) a new site which hasnt been thru an update yet. yes i know google does not show all link, but even for pr1 site it does show at least 1 backlink, even if the link is coming from one of its own pages. and TBH msn always seems better for me when im checking backlinks, especially if you have a lot of site-wide links.
Sorry for trying to help Candj. Check out the post by altyazı up above. It has a good breakdown of how its done, that is if you don't want to rely on a tool.
Its easy to fake PR, but don't expect to sell them for more than $10, because people are not stupid anymore!
You are wrong! I checked it again and the site http://www.verifygooglepagerank.com/ does say: FAKE PAGERANK: --Message: PageRank NOT validated! The determined PageRank belongs to ANOTHER site: http://ntadmin.reachone.net/ http://www.ntadmin.reachone.net/ http://www.hvlabs.net/ -- end Message Check it out for yourself: http://www.verifygooglepagerank.com/index.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hvlabs.net%2F
I guess it is the experience doing this what gives you the "edge" to find out right away if it is fake or not!
Good job tycoonjo! My mistake and I stand corrected. Not only that, but I am very thankful. I will use this link to further my evidence that a PR7 scam is going on in this thread: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=245734 I've included the link in post #18
at the same time, you can have a pr8 homepage, with a pr7 subpage that has no external backlinks... Ive seen many pr7 sites with pr6 subpages with no backlinks
It is entirely possible to get a PR7 with only 18 backlinks. It is possible to get it with a single backlink, and that backlink doesn't even have to be there anymore. 1 single decent PR8 backlink (or a very strong PR7) can pass on a PR7 to a page that it links to, and the link only has to exist at the time of the PR update. Even if the link is gone by the time the actual update starts, the visible PR will remain until the next update. It might also be that they had a single PR8 rented link long enough for the PR update, as I mentioned above, and then dropped the link. Since Google only shows a portion of the backlinks, then if there were only 1 link it's a crap shoot as to whether or not it will show on a Google link: command. SEOLogs is reporting as it should be... the link was a valid PR7 when the PR update snapshot was taken. You can tell however, by looking at the current BL in Yahoo, that, a you said, the PR won't stay. -Michael