Exact Match Domains Fooling Google - Real Example

Discussion in 'Google' started by runnerunner, Jan 5, 2011.

  1. #1
    Exact match domains appear to be showing up in google's top 10 using just crappy links to get them there.

    My recent blog entry goes into more detail on the specific example i give which you can find here: Brosense.

    But to recap the entry if you do a google search for "Nokia 5530": http://www.google.com/search?q=#+no...=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=83f87efc6f926f13

    you'll see this site ranks 7th: http://www.nokia5530.com/

    then take a look at the links: http://siteexplorer.search.yahoo.com/search?p=www.nokia5530.com/&bwm=i&bwmo=d&bwmf=s

    and you'll find crappy comments, profile links, and not many of them such as this one:

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    I recently advised someone in another thread to not take too much weight into exact match domains despite the strength they get in google: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=2050678

    I think this is only a temporary problem in the algorithm that they know about, and that it will get fixed in future updates. Just thought everyone could benefit from seeing a breakdown of a specific example
     

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  2. School Games

    School Games Peon

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    #2
    Good post and the bloog is very good. Thanks for the info
     
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  3. paidforumposters

    paidforumposters Peon

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    Well mate if it was an error it couldnt really last that long. And this has been publicly discussed several times that google now gives importance to exact word domains.

    Anyways, here is someone proving the point I made with a completely different take on the same fact.

    Keyword Domains and Google
     
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  4. CameronHamilton

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    Just what Google needs more of - power. Google has so much power over the domain name market. Let's say Google didn't want to feature domain names with the exact keywords in the top ten results. Then alot of domain names would lose their value.

    I don't think they're going to address this one.
     
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  5. runnerunner

    runnerunner Active Member

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    the problem isn't that exact match domains appear the in the top 10 results, the problem is, it doesn't take any high quality links to get them there. They can ride their garbage links into the top 10 alone. THAT is the problem and why I think it will change.
     
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  6. NeVerTrYFoRME

    NeVerTrYFoRME Peon

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    It's not a serious issue. Google crawler program is not human, it works by it's alogrithm
     
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  7. zimzalabim

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    In my experience the more relevant the domain name the better. Only one piece of the puzzle of course - still require good, relevant content and traffic generation though a highly relevant domain name, exact match if poss, doesn't do any harm. Yours. Andy.
     
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  8. CameronHamilton

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    Wow you're great at drawing conclusions. You're suggesting that someone with an EXACT DOMAIN NAME is able get on the front page with junky links and that a person who doesn't have the EXACT DOMAIN NAME can't?

    Maybe if you took an extra three seconds to think about it you would realize that it's the domain name that's making all of the difference in this situation. Wouldn't you agree?

    Which is why I revert you to my original arguement that Google has way to much power over the domain name market.
     
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  9. School Games

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    #9
    I agree with Cameron here on this one
     
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  10. runnerunner

    runnerunner Active Member

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    so where's your disagreement? What do I need to think 3 more seconds about? did you even read my post?
     
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  11. CameronHamilton

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    Wow you're definately bright. The problem is that Google has given AUTHORITY to exact keyword domain names. Which is why some junky links can get them to the front page. If Google takes away the AUTHORITY from exact keyword domain names then junky links wouldn't be able to get them to the top would they? You follow.

    You're suggesting that it's the junky links that's getting them to the top when it's not. It's the weight that an exact domain name has in the Search Engine. If you take away that authority then it would be like any other domain name.
     
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    Even though Google won't index my exact match domain dot info domains feeding eBay auctions, yahoo and bing do index them and I am between results 1 and 3 on about 90% of the dot infos I have. I get enough traffic to the epn auctions that those sites together pay all my hosting and registration fees for my entire network of sites for the whole year. Yahoo and Bing have long given authority to exact match domains. Funny that Google seems to now be following them in that arena...
     
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  13. runnerunner

    runnerunner Active Member

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    This will be my last response to you, but there definitely isn't any disagreement here, I've said exactly the same thing. But you're definitely a tool that much is clear.
     
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    There were entire systems built around this idea that Google heavily weights exact-match domains and that you can rank on page one overnight for a pretty basic site, even with NO backlinking! Look up the Xfactor method if you're not familiar with it. And it worked for a while, and it's the reason why ALL exact-match .com domains are GONE. I defy anyone to come up with any generic product name .com EMD that isn't taken! Ok, there may be a very few around, but you get the idea. And many, many of them are on Google page one.
    It seems though that Google finally did something about this around summer last year and it is now seemingly pretty hard to rank out of the gate with an EMD.
    But why the surprise at the crappy BL profile? With 'tools' around like Scrapebox, people will always try to get easy backlinks and I hope Google starts properly penalising the comment spammers soon. At least until recently, though, it seems EMD + comment spam backlinks was the sure way to the top.
     
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    Markowe I am new to this concept. What EMD stands for? Thank u in advance
     
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