Ex atheist champion now believes in god

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by pingpong123, Feb 13, 2009.

  1. stOx

    stOx Notable Member

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    #41
    Again, Nobody claims it came about by random chance out of thin air. I know you have to ignore this fact because your entire strawman argument rests entirely on the deceptive tactic of misrepresenting people views (how so very "christian" of you), But surely your dignity, if not the imaginary rules in your made up book, will prevent you continuing with such a deceitful debate tactic. What happened to "thou shalt not lie"?

    if you want to debate science with me, let's do it. but at least have the intellectual honesty to refute claims people are actually making and not ones which you have made up.
     
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    #42
    You keep saying that, yet I don't see any real convincing posts with superior reason or even evidence anywhere. You do have opinions... but everyone has them, so those are trite.

    Otherwise we'd be on the verge of a new scientific breakthrough, so this is exciting.

    But I won't get my hopes up.
     
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    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    #43
    Stox, as i said before the facts are in my older posts, you allready know this but Koan doesnt and if he wants to know the answers he can look through my posts.

    If an atheist leader truely believes in his faith then nothing can make change his mind, but to me it looks like if one of the biggest atheist leaders can change his mind then it doesnt bode well for the other debaters favoring atheism, besides the fact that they truely know inside that this universe needed to have a guiding hand to come about.
     
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    #44
    No there are no facts in your posts. There are only intentional misrepresentations, straw-man arguments and fallacious argument from design; The typical stuff we see from the average creationists argument.
     
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    #45
    Every day, people from all sides switch, "convert" or fall out from their present beliefs. This, in itself, is no argument for any positions. The religion with the highest growth right now is Islam (I think), does that make that religion truer than Christianism? No... the popularity of a belief is not an indication of whether it is closer to the truth or not. Reality will always be what it is.
     
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