Every second is worth reading this

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by netbot, Dec 29, 2006.

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    Every second is worth reading this


    An atheist professor of philosophy speaks to his class on the problem science has with God, The Almighty.

    He asks one of his new students to stand and.....

    Prof: So you believe in God?

    Student: Absolutely, sir.

    Prof : Is God good?

    Student: Sure.

    Prof: Is God all-powerful?

    Student : Yes.

    Prof: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to God to heal him.

    Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But God didn't. How is this God good then? Hmm?

    (Student is silent.)

    Prof: You can't answer, can you? Let's start again, young fella. Is God good?

    Student: Yes.

    Prof: Is Satan good?

    Student : No.

    Prof: Where does Satan come from?

    Student: From...God...

    Prof: That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?

    Student: Yes.

    Prof: Evil is everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything. Correct?

    Student: Yes.

    Prof: So who created evil?

    (Student does not answer.)

    Prof: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don't they?

    Student: Yes, sir.

    Prof: So, who created them?

    (Student has no answer.)

    Prof: Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and observe the world around you.

    Tell me, son...Have you ever seen God?

    Student: No, sir.

    Prof: Tell us if you have ever heard your God?

    Student: No, sir.

    Prof: Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God, smelt your God?

    Have you ever had any sensory perception of God for that matter?

    Student: No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.

    Prof: Yet you still believe in Him?

    Student: Yes.

    Prof: According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your GOD doesn't exist.

    What do you say to that, son?

    Student: Nothing. I only have my faith.

    Prof: Yes. Faith. And that is the problem science has.

    Student: Professor, is there such a thing as heat?

    Prof: Yes.

    Student: And is there such a thing as cold?

    Prof: Yes.

    Student: No sir. There isn't.

    (The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events.)

    Student : Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat.

    But we don't have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can't go

    any further after that. There is no such thing as cold . Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of

    heat . We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy . Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it .

    (There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.)

    Student: What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?

    Prof: Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness?

    Student : You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright

    light, flashing light....But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? In

    reality, darkness isn't. If it were you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you?

    Prof: So what is the point you are making, young man?

    Student: Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.

    Prof: Flawed? Can you explain how?

    Student: Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one.

    To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it.

    Now tell me, Professor.Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?


    Prof: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.

    Student: Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?

    (The Professor shakes his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument is going.)

    Student: Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher? (The class is in uproar.)

    Student: Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor's brain?

    (The class breaks out into laughter.)

    Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain,sir.

    With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?

    (The room is silent. The professor stares at the student, his face unfathomable.)

    Prof: I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son.

    Student: That is it sir... The link between man & god is FAITH . That is all that keeps things moving & alive.

    I believe you have enjoyed the conversation...and if so...you'll probably want your friends/colleagues to enjoy the same...won't you?....

    this is a true story, and the student was none other than.........APJ Abdul Kalam , the present president of India.
     
    netbot, Dec 29, 2006 IP
  2. Scheme

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    At first it's Albert Einstien and now it's the president of India?
     
    Scheme, Dec 29, 2006 IP
  3. BRUm

    BRUm Well-Known Member

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    I was enjoying it until the student started arguing hahaha
     
    BRUm, Dec 30, 2006 IP
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    sebastya Well-Known Member

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    #4
    hahahahaha
     
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  5. Dead Corn

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    #5
    I've heard this attributed to so many people.
     
    Dead Corn, Dec 30, 2006 IP
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    dotcompals Prominent Member

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    #6
    Exactly.. I too..
     
    dotcompals, Dec 30, 2006 IP
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    It is an interesting argument, even if it never really happened or if it has been attributed to the wrong person.
     
    MattKNC, Dec 30, 2006 IP
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    ROAR Well-Known Member Affiliate Manager

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    #8
    impressive logic for a community college intro to philosophy course. keep up the good work
     
    ROAR, Dec 30, 2006 IP
  9. Luke Beale

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    Well it's a funny conversation :D
     
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    kanwarjot Notable Member

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    #10
    Thts really funny...
    lol:)
     
    kanwarjot, Apr 7, 2007 IP
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    ferret77 Heretic

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    yeah but if you cut his head open there would be brain in there
     
    ferret77, Apr 7, 2007 IP
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    #12
    The logic used by both of them are extremely flawed, especially the student. Therefore, whoever wrote this is uneducated.
    Science can in fact demonstrate that the professor has a brain. In addition, in real life, no professor is dull enough to stand there silent and surrender to an ad hominem argument.
     
    ReadyToGo, Apr 7, 2007 IP
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    mubin Notable Member

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    #13
    If it was really in India, and student backtalked to the professor like that he would get pwerbombed through a table, slapped, spanked, flagged, whipped, and told to walk around naked.

    Only in other countries can you talk back to teachers. This aint happening here :)
     
    mubin, Apr 7, 2007 IP
  14. Johnny Inferno

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    I think a professor would know cold is lack of heat or darkness is lack of light, heck I knew that in grade 7! :rolleyes:
     
    Johnny Inferno, Apr 8, 2007 IP
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    Albert Einstein

    Most of these good stories are falsely attributed to some Indian and doing rounds over the Internet.

    Please research before you attribute.
     
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  16. roiei

    roiei Banned

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    It was Albert Einstein indeed ...
     
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    It wasn't Einstein; it was made up by someone who is dim-witted.
     
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    #18
    You cannot prove anything by phylosophy, you cannot deny anything.

    For example in phylosopy they argue if "A" is correct or "B". If they could prove that "A" is correct then this question would be out of phylosophy immediately.

    The only use of studying phylosophy is to teach it.
    .
     
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    Says the person who doesn't even know how to spell "philosophy".
    If you want to talk about an academic discipline, or anything for that matter, study it first. You sound very ignorant.
     
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    Would you like to challange the correctness of my comment?

    I claim that nobody can prove or disprove anything by phylosophy and this is despite the fact that I didn't know how to spell philosophy. You cannot even prove that you, yourself, exist let alone proving other things - no offence, the same goes for me too:) -

    I also claim that philosophy covers the unknown areas for human. If we knew something it wouldn't be a philosophy subject anymore, it would be say math, chemistry, physics etc.

    I might not follow this topic, PM me if you add a post here concerning challenging my comment.
    .
     
    mahmood, Apr 9, 2007 IP