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EPS Cookie Script (Just Curious)

Discussion in 'Commission Junction' started by mcmuney, Apr 18, 2008.

  1. #1
    I've seen some posts here about this and I was just curious to find out how many of you out there would seriously consider a cookie script that would place the ebay cookie as soon as a user visits the site, before clicking on an auction item?

    Would you take the risk of losing your affiliate account? If yes, how much would you pay for such a script?
     
    mcmuney, Apr 18, 2008 IP
  2. tvmatt

    tvmatt Peon

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    You WILL get banned by doing that. It's not hard to detect that kind of stuff. Trust me :)
     
    tvmatt, Apr 18, 2008 IP
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    Johu Peon

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    Last I checked, iframes are very easy to create.

    This will also get your account banned.
     
    Johu, Apr 18, 2008 IP
  4. mcmuney

    mcmuney Well-Known Member

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    Is it that simple as using an iframe to load an ebay page?
     
    mcmuney, Apr 18, 2008 IP
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    #5
    yes you can cookie stuff by using an iframe to load an ebay page....

    but you will get banned as it is pretty easy to detect (your ctr will go through the roof)
     
    creativehustle, Apr 19, 2008 IP
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    Kerosene Alpha & Omega™ Staff

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    Yep.

    Cookie stuffing is a bad idea, it will eventually catch up with you and bite you HARD in the ass.

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    Kerosene, Apr 19, 2008 IP
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    baygrafix Active Member

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    If you get the script, or frames and use them, you can kiss your account good-bye.
     
    baygrafix, Apr 19, 2008 IP
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    What is EPS? Is this somehow related to EPN? Have I missed a stroke here? I do agree that cookie stuffing is a sure fire way to get banned with EPN.
     
    potentmix, Apr 19, 2008 IP
  9. mcmuney

    mcmuney Well-Known Member

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    Oops, should've been EPN. How is CTR calculated?
     
    mcmuney, Apr 19, 2008 IP
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    I believe ctr is calculated by the ratio - impressions/clicks.
     
    potentmix, Apr 19, 2008 IP
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    mcjp6 Well-Known Member

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    thats correct 1 impression and 1 click = 100% CTR (click through rate) which is would you would get with cookie stuffing, one reason why its so easy to detect because no one has a CTR of 100%
     
    mcjp6, Apr 19, 2008 IP
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    In all respect, I don't think that's accurate. I have sites that carry no eBay creatives and have no tracking pixel images, etc. They get zero impressions, but plenty of clicks. Also, with rss, you get these rogue bots that won't honor robots.txt and run up thousands of clicks because eBay's tracking records them. So, I wonder to what extent cookie stuffing would be distinguishable.
     
    potentmix, Apr 19, 2008 IP
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    mcjp6 Well-Known Member

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    it is accurate providing of course that the appropriate tracking mechanisms are in place, but you do raise an interesting point, I have no idea however when it come to i/frames etc. and I have no desire to find out and risk my epn account :(
     
    mcjp6, Apr 19, 2008 IP
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    I'm not about to find out either.
     
    potentmix, Apr 19, 2008 IP
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    #15
    If you CTR is to high just make another iframe and put 50 tracking pixels, lol.
    But i think the risk of getting banned comes from someone reporting your page, its pretty easy for someone to see that you iframed a redirect to ebay.
     
    adrock1795, Apr 20, 2008 IP
  16. mcmuney

    mcmuney Well-Known Member

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    Don't get me wrong fellas, I have no intentions of finding out myself either, at the expense of getting banned. But as some of you pointed out, it doesn't seem too difficult to add, especially since impressions are not tracked.
     
    mcmuney, Apr 20, 2008 IP
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    Cookie stuffing is EXTREMELY easy to catch. Conversion rate is the biggest giveaway. With thousands and thousands of publishers in a network, it's very easy to catch anybody that is cookie stuffing by analyzing the data & finding publishers who have numbers outside of the normal range.

    It's not even worth your time to try.
     
    tvmatt, Apr 21, 2008 IP
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    RealFlyboy Banned

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    #18
    Forget iframes, that's for rookies.

    Image stuffing with php scripts for referer spoofing and crap traffic and you got yourself a nice income
     
    RealFlyboy, Apr 23, 2008 IP
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    EPN has been banning ppl right and left for stuffing
     
    robb01, Apr 23, 2008 IP
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    tvmatt Peon

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    *yawn* Seen that before, it's easy to catch. Again, conversion rate is the biggest giveaway. Remember - eBay has a HUGE amount of data to run your numbers against, and if you're an outlier, you'll get banned for cookie stuffing or whatever you're doing. It's so easy to catch, I don't know why people even try anymore.
     
    tvmatt, Apr 23, 2008 IP