ALL OPINIONS ARE WELCOME..... but think first. 1. Should people that can write any grade of article be considered a copywriter? 2. Do you come here to learn more about writing skills, as I do? 3. Should you make posts because you want to keep learning about writing your own articles? 4. Is it fair to post to find the cheapest writers available? 5. Do you think changing article content with cheap software is different than starting an article and writing it out? 6. Is it more important to flood the internet with quantity or fewer and better quality articles? 7. Should you check your usage of English and quit posting semi-broken English that is inexcusable? 8. Do you want to get rich anyway possible, or because you personally make it happen with skills, hard work, and learning you obtain? 9. Should a forum part be set up for learning English and its long range value? 10. What could be done to improve the Copywriting forum? Please only answer those you care to. Your feedback, if not stupid, is appreciated. Thanks
1. It depends on how you rank people. Some universities have high exigencies, while others will give you a degree even if you are a crappy writer or engineer. For me it doesn't matter, everyone consider himself what he wants, it doesn't really bother me. 2. No, you won't learn much here about writing skills; yet it's not the aim of this sub-forum. 3. It helps. 6. Actually it's not important, but happen to make money if you can SEO it. 10. I think actually there are good members with good contributions. What we should do is to find interesting topics to discuss.
The first, and most important thing that you should get out of your head is that article writers are copywriters. They ARE NOT! Once you can get over the hurdle of thinking that you are something that you don't even understand, and can identify your skills properly, you will be able to move forward and hopefully tap into some degree of success.
1. Should people that can write any grade of article be considered a copywriter? No. Copywriting is NOT article writing! 2. Do you come here to learn more about writing skills, as I do? Personally, I come here to help others learn the same as other copywriters helped me learn along the way. There are other ways I learn how to hone my copywriting skills. 3. Should you make posts because you want to keep learning about writing your own articles? No, it's not fair to make posts just to be posting. Your posts should somehow either request information or, preferably, present solutions and answers for others to consider. 4. Is it fair to post to find the cheapest writers available? Fair or not, I don't think you'll stop this practice. But anyone with any copywriting skills at all will avoid this kind of client like the plague. 5. Do you think changing article content with cheap software is different than starting an article and writing it out? Duh! I never change article content then pretend it's my own. I always write my articles from scratch after doing research. IMO anything else is unethical, dishonest and downright cheating. 6. Is it more important to flood the internet with quantity or fewer and better quality articles? Depends on what kind of reputation you want to have as a writer. 9. Should a forum part be set up for learning English and its long range value? Um, there are a few posters here that could benefit from such a forum. 10. What could be done to improve the Copywriting forum? Have more copywriting conundrums presented that get thoughtful responses useful to all. That's why I posted the How do you write Headlines thread - most copywriters have their own favorite tricks to create compelling headlines; I think each of us could benefit from hearing about all the different approaches.
Super, this a good variety of views so far. I do not expect everyone to agree. It would be very boring if we were all the same. Dorothy: I wish there was someway your answers could playback to everyone before they post and respond. I did not put up this post to judge anyone, so say what you truly feel. That said, your responses are very insightful. Your words of wisdom present an excellent viewpoint.
1. NO. In the strictest sense, an article writer is different than a copywriter. 2. For me, the point of visiting this forum is to interact with other copywriters and to know what others are doing right (or wrong). What I can do to improve myself as a writer (not actually language wise) - as a businessperson ... a professional.. 3. Of course, making new posts/ threads helps us all come on a single platform to present our views and learn something along the way. 4. Well, posting about wanting to hire the cheapest writer is the tackiest thing to do. Especially repulsive is the oxymoron "best and cheapest writer wins" . But, I guess we can not put a stop to this. However, it would only be proper to NOT to let these posts hang around in the "COPYWRITING" sub forum (JMattern are you listening ?) 5. Changing the article content and presenting it as one's own is a crime. Doing so with a software is murder. Period. 6. For me? I'd go any day with "high quality" articles. But I don't think that webmasters developing site after site with only Adsense as the only motivation would agree. 7. It would be dictatorial to think that only "perfect" writers can post on a free forum. I guess anybody and everybody is welcome. 8. For me, getting rich would work - any legal way which may or may not include hard work has a quick and loud "Aye" from me 9. Yes, that's a great idea. 10. Better quality of threads. Better moderation (no offense to the mods) weeding out threads like "I need 100 articles in 4 days" or "need good writer at $3/500 words" . These belong to BST, right? Also, closing threads complaining about trashy writers and non-paying clients after a certain amount of time (10 days is a reasonable time). Though these posts don't actually belong to this forum, yet if they get stretched to over several days and day after day people just post "You get what you pay for" .. I don't think that adds any value to the thread / forum in any way and it just ends up bumping a worthless thread right to the top of the forum.
Appreciate the thought out viewpoints. Here is the chance for any opinions. No two, even those that take time, are going to match. That is the point of this post and also the forum. I promise here, not to lash out at anyone, unless trying intentionally to destroy the post. Maybe this will serve as a barometer (not thermometer) to what sincere participants feel and want. Thanks for taking the time!
1. Should people that can write any grade of article be considered a copywriter? A: As others said, both are different. For me, to become a good copywriter requires more skill and experience than a good article writer. 2. Do you come here to learn more about writing skills, as I do? A: We are always learning, aren't we? 4. Is it fair to post to find the cheapest writers available? A: For some, money is a constraint and quality isn't important. Although I can't agree with their approach, to each his own. 5. Do you think changing article content with cheap software is different than starting an article and writing it out? A: Of course. Isn't it obvious? 6. Is it more important to flood the internet with quantity or fewer and better quality articles? Fewer better quality articles unless there is absolutely no info on that topic. In which case any info is better than none. 7. Should you check your usage of English and quit posting semi-broken English that is inexcusable? A: Yes, but as long as you are trying to improve, some errors are acceptable. But there seem to be some people who are lazy and don't care about learning or improving. 8. Do you want to get rich anyway possible, or because you personally make it happen with skills, hard work, and learning you obtain? A: I would like to become rich using my skills (And some luck) and without (Intentionally) defrauding or cheating others.
01) Copywriting is creative writing as opposed to article writing. 02) Yes, I do. 03) Learning about writing is a never-ending process. 04) One man's meat is another man's poison. 05) Software, cheap or costly, cannot replace the human brain, at least as of now. 06) One good article that serves it's purpose, is worth more than a million useless ones. 07) Absolutely! 08) The accolades received by a well-written article, are far more valuable than all the cash in the world. 09) No comments! 10) Which `copywriting forum?'