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English 101: Wrong use of apostrophe s ('s)

Discussion in 'Copywriting' started by beeznet, Feb 23, 2010.

  1. #1
    I see this in many a sales copy, and yes even with the so-called gurus. Notice that I didn't place an apostrophe in "gurus" in the previous sentence. It is wrong English to use an apostrophe (') when denoting the plural form.

    When writing a plural word, you don't place an apostrophe before the s. For example, this is wrong: I love all the guru's. This is right: I love all the gurus.

    An apostrophe before the s denotes ownership, as in: I read the guru's ebook. (In other words: I read the ebook of the guru.)

    It's a big turn off to see grammar and spelling mistakes in a sales copy. If the owner of the web site doesn't take care in composing or checking his copy, he's just probably out to get your money and won't care about after-sales support.
     
    beeznet, Feb 23, 2010 IP
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  2. MJHarborne

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    Unfortunately, many people don't understand how to use the apostrophe. I've even seen shops where there's an unwarranted apostrophe in the name.
     
    MJHarborne, Feb 25, 2010 IP
  3. tajo

    tajo Peon

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    #3
    An apostrophe isn't always for ownership.

    For example, it's, don't, isn't, would've, I'll - they represent contractions and it is very important not to confuse these with plurals or ownership.

    it's --- it is
    don't --- do not
    isn't --- is not
    would've --- would have
    I'll --- I will

    These are just some examples of the many tens or hundreds of contractions that an be used in the English language.
     
    tajo, Feb 25, 2010 IP
  4. sunny61162

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    Yes, that's something I've seen people err quite often.

    I've also seen people mistake than for then, you're/you are for your, etc.
     
    sunny61162, Feb 25, 2010 IP
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    vip-ip Active Member

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    Apostrophes make it easy to spot a good writer from a bad one. Foreigners who claim to be native speakers might be able to hold a conversation, but that doesn't mean they'll be able to write a coherent paragraph (or a number of paragraph's :D )
     
    vip-ip, Feb 25, 2010 IP
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    1associate Peon

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    Well said! Poor spelling is another sign of a fly-by-night operation. Yesterday, for example, I saw an article writer offering to sell "articeles". Another thing content writers should look to correct is their use of their, there and they're - these words are not interchangeable.
     
    1associate, Feb 25, 2010 IP
  7. Mystique

    Mystique Well-Known Member

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    Outsourcing services made me aware that people whose native language is other than English confuse grammar rules with their own.

    As in example, while in English CDs is the correct expression denoting more than one CD, in other languages CD's is the correct plural form :rolleyes:
     
    Mystique, Feb 25, 2010 IP
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    dulcificum Active Member

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    I hate braindead retards who don't understand the difference between "its" and "it's".
     
    dulcificum, Feb 25, 2010 IP
  9. ~kev~

    ~kev~ Well-Known Member

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    #9
    Apostrophe after the s denotes ownership, not before.

    gurus - pural
    guru's - contraction of the word "guru" and the word "is"
    gurus' - defines ownership

    Your example "I read the guru's ebook" is the same as saying "I read in the guru is ebook."

    Proper grammar would have been "I read in the gurus' book"
     
    ~kev~, Feb 25, 2010 IP
  10. alexa_s

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    #10
    That's "stylistic", Mystique, not "right and wrong".

    From my own experience, some UK publishers instruct all editors to insert apostrophes in abbreviations of that kind, simply because they're abbreviations. Many national newspapers, for example, will refer to "MP's" rather than to "MPs", as you perhaps would yourself. This is a matter of "house style".
     
    alexa_s, Feb 25, 2010 IP
  11. writerren

    writerren Peon

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    I have a pretty good handle on the English language and consider myself a good writer, but every time I use its I have to remember:

    "Oh, if you want to show possession it's just I-T-S, but if it's supposed to be a contraction than it's I-T-apostrophe-S. Scalawag"

    Someone should make a ridiculous one line jingle for every grammatical rule. The world would read a whole lot better if it happened.
     
    writerren, Feb 25, 2010 IP
  12. beeznet

    beeznet Peon

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    #12
    Indeed. Thanks for pointing this out.
     
    beeznet, Feb 25, 2010 IP
  13. beeznet

    beeznet Peon

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    Apostrophe after the s denotes ownership of more than one. Your example, gurus' ebook, would mean the ebook of many gurus. Apostrophe s can mean both ownership and a contraction depending on how it is used. For example, The guru's going to town is a contraction, while The guru's ebook is ownership. However, The gurus going to town is plural. Read tajo's post.
     
    beeznet, Feb 25, 2010 IP
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    She's frustrated with all of the cats' bullcrap.
     
    TheBankBreaker, Feb 25, 2010 IP
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    #15
    That is inaccurate; "I read the guru's ebook" means you read the ebook belonging to the guru. "I read the guru's ebook" is actually proper grammar, in Canada, US, and UK.

    "Gurus'" means there are multiple gurus to which the book belongs to.

    Note:

    gurus - plural
    guru's - contraction of the word "guru" and word "is", or defines ownership
    gurus' - defines ownership of more than one person

    Hope this helps!
     
    gsmile, Feb 25, 2010 IP
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    Get to the point why don't you? People who can't spell government and environment do my head in but I don't hate them. On the contrary, I enjoy pointing out their mistakes and making them feel stupid. I believe mine is a more healthy attitude...
     
    1associate, Feb 26, 2010 IP
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    Necessary has one collar but two sleeves

    There is a rat in separate
     
    1associate, Feb 26, 2010 IP
  18. Larry Hagman

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    This is misguided information.
     
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    only apostrophes? Many spelling mistakes, I wonder why they don't get a spelling checker, since they are free
     
    omarabid, Feb 26, 2010 IP
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    MS Word FTW :)
     
    vip-ip, Feb 26, 2010 IP