End of Democracy In Britian...

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by killerkitten, Nov 21, 2008.

  1. Masterful

    Masterful Well-Known Member

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    #21
    I find that hard to believe. Why would someone who hates the BNP complain when they are exposed?

    Hallelujah! The punishments should be worse. They should be completely ostracised.

    So, if it was up to you, Nazis, the KKK, the BNP and all the other extremist piece-of-shit political parties and organisations should be allowed to preach their hatred. Is that correct? :rolleyes:

    Penalising such scum as the BNP isn't a violation of democratic ideals; it's a reinforcement of common sense, decency and morality.
     
    Masterful, Nov 21, 2008 IP
  2. Toopac

    Toopac Peon

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    #22
    They are similar to the KKK in their hatred for certain groups.

    Some of there hardest supporters are nazi type skinheads.
     
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  3. stOx

    stOx Notable Member

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    #23
    While i do think any political party should be legal and membership of any political party should be allowed, I do find it amusing how quickly these knuckle heads start crapping their pant when it became possible that the tables have turned and they may soon find themselves clearing up the dog shit that has been posted through their letter boxes.

    What's even funnier is king knuckle head, nick griffin, Has invoked "human rights" legislation to battle against the members list being published, even though one his parties policies is to abandon all human rights legislation. hypocrite cowards.
     
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  4. northpointaiki

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    #24
    Special bunch. I haven't closely followed European party politics in a number of years, but reading this thread, I'm piqued. I have a French pal, and last year, just prior to Sarkozy's win, we were discussing the insanity of Le Pen's continued audience among some disgruntled French. For the Brits on board, how much of a pulse does the BNP or the NF have?

    Side topic - anyone see This is England? Outstanding film, I thought. I remember Stephen Graham from Band of Brothers, and was blown away by his turn in the film - along with that of the newcomer, Thomas Turgoose.
     
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  5. stOx

    stOx Notable Member

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    #25
    this is england is one of my top 5 films. Graham was amazing in it. He also played tommy in snatch.
     
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  6. lightless

    lightless Notable Member

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    #26
    Nationalists are sometimes so narrow minded that it is scary. Just another form of "I don't like people not like me".
     
    lightless, Nov 22, 2008 IP
  7. alexa_s

    alexa_s Peon

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    #27
    They have a little bit of a pulse more or less as a protest vote only and in local council elections only and in poor, bad, rough areas with a very high immigrant population only (they naturally concert all their efforts into those areas, being the only ones in which they can attract any measurable support). As far as general (parliamentary) elections they have absolutely no pulse at all, so much so that the major parties customarily don't waste any effort, energy or money dealing with them or acknowledging their existence at all. They are, after all, for the most part, a bunch of malicious, opinionated, ex-convict thugs with no real policies at all on any substantive issue other than immigration. (One can't help observing that it would be interesting indeed to see how they might try to run the celebrated "National Health Service" without any immigrant labour.)

    They embarrass the Conservative party, many of whose policies they try to "borrow" (perhaps a little less so now that the difference between Labour and Conservative is as small as it's ever been). They do the Labour party no harm, to be very cynical about it, because it must be (at least) 80% Conservative votes that they're taking, when they take any.
     
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  8. killerkitten

    killerkitten Peon

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    #28
    No i dont support the BNP but i respect the right for people to air their views (as ou are doing in the quote above). Also the extreme parties such as the Nazis and the KKK are an extreme version of the BNP, and im not sure about you but i would much prefer a (slightly more tamed) political party where people can talk about their views and feelings than have them segregated from the rest of the community and force them into becoming a cult like the KKK.

    Overall my point here was not that the BNP were being exposed (because to be honest i think they deserve it) but it was more becuase they were being persecuted because of their beliefs.

    I understand the points you were making alex_s and again my point seems to have been misunderstood, my point was that people are being ridiculed for their beliefs. I can understand the loss of their job now that you have mentioned it...but just by the reaction of some of the people on the forum my point has been proven further... although we may not agree with what they believe does that give us the right to persecute them for believing in it? im sure not all BNP policies are racist and im sure alot of people who vote for them are not racist...(admittedly their are racists among them).. from areas i have visited and people who i have spoken too, many vote for the BNP either as a protest vote or because they believe that it stands for british pride (however mislead that may sound)...so im not quite sure their all ex-convicts ;)
     
    killerkitten, Mar 8, 2009 IP
  9. ardley216

    ardley216 Peon

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    #29
    alexa, weather they were in the BNP or not they would still have these views, them being sacked for being a part of it is not right. I don't agree with the BNP, but it is known that they are no longer the full on racists people believe them to be, the hardliners critisise the BNP now for going soft. they are not a cult like the KKK, they are a legal political party

    and i do not agree with the BNP and i am NOT supporting them in any way
     
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  10. act_one

    act_one Well-Known Member

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    #30
    long live democracy..
     
    act_one, Mar 13, 2009 IP
  11. uploas

    uploas Peon

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    #31
    Oh my god.. even the most extremely party in Israel is not as racist as they are.. are they anti everything?(Jews, Muslims, LGTB)?
    how dare they deny the Holocaust? ohhh... how many people are going to vote for those Nazis? (do me a favor, this is just like Hitler's opinions..)
     
    uploas, Mar 15, 2009 IP
  12. pilky01

    pilky01 Peon

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    #32
    The BNP calling them selves a political party is hilarious. If they ever came into power we would be in serious trouble.
     
    pilky01, Mar 15, 2009 IP
  13. peter_anderson

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    #33
    The BNP are just like the Nazi party.

    When Hitler was voted in, there was economic problems, and unrest within the country. Just like the UK just now. Hitler promised to fix all the problems. Same with the BNP.

    The BNP have a higher chance of getting votes in the next election than any other time.

    God no!
     
    peter_anderson, Mar 15, 2009 IP
  14. TheNoose

    TheNoose Peon

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    #34
    Are people in any country truly free? Just look at America - people get fired because of their religious affiliations (or lack thereof), sexual orientation, etc. all the time.
     
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  15. ardley216

    ardley216 Peon

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    #35
    if people acftually read up about the BNP and listened to what they actually say and not pre judge, whcih is what you are doing they are not all that racist, i find alot of the comments above quite narrow minded.. and again.. i do not support the BNP, but there are LOT of misconceptions with them... britain is oen of the LEST secular countries in the world... many people will disagree cos they refuse to step back and look at it properly...

    please know what you are sayign befoere you say it...
     
    ardley216, Mar 16, 2009 IP
  16. killerkitten

    killerkitten Peon

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    #36
    lol i think youve taken that comparison to the extreme thier lol...

    1. The BNP have no seats in parliament

    2. The Nazis used under hand tactics and shear force to muscle their way into power lol...im sure i can say with confidence the BNP do not have a version of the SS lol
     
    killerkitten, Mar 16, 2009 IP