Eminem sais F*CK Bush Watch the video.

Well, I'm pretty sure there was controversy before this hack put a mike to his mouth. Beyond, controversy, as we all know, means genius. In fact, I'm so sure of it, I'm going to take a very public dump in the middle of our main street, just to show my genius.

 

Eminem is a black wannabe dick.
The end.

 

To be clear: "blackness," "whiteness," any shade, hue, or contrast in between has nothing to do with it, in my book. I just think the guy is a self-obsessed little prick, who has been able to get people to buy his public emesis-as-"art."

 

Yep your right there,hes got a big ego for his little height.

 

I stay out of this forum because I don't like reading this kind of stuff, but I will reply.

I like Eminem. The reason I do has nothing to do with me being white. He is certainly not perfect, and I wouldn't let my kids listen to him if I had any. But I would like any of you to point out any perfect celebrity. Any perfect person for that matter.

People are so quick to put down every celebrity. The only reason we hear about what celebrities do is because they are famous. Unfamous people do the same crazy shit, just no body cares.

Eminem has brought about change in America. Plenty of black people love Eminem. Plenty of white people love Tiger Woods. Whether you agree with what Eminem says or not, you can't deny that him being here has calmed the ongoing racial tension in America. Those not from America wouldn't understand that. Simply put, the line between black and white has been blurred a little bit more. Hopefully one day, with enough Eminem's and Tiger Wood's, that line will be completely invsible.

 

I hope this becomes true but i just think his ego has suppased his ability.

 

Matt -

I can only speak personally. Race has nothing to do with this. If Eminem has helped us bridge the gap, then I applaud that. But then, I've never needed a white punk to teach me the laughably simple fact: D'oh! we're all one species! Who'da thunk?

Personally, what has helped me learn more of any culture is just taking the time to get to know it - whether working with Ojibwa and their tribal security needs, or working side by side with a bright young man who was forced to declare gang allegiance by age 5, or face death. In other words, when I take off the parochial glasses and seek to walk a mile in my brother's shoes.

Turning to Eminem, "not perfect" is a gross understatement. Whether he is getting paid to ham-fistedly describe, in detail, how he wants to rape and murder his mother, or how he get his puerile jollies by driving around town with the corpse of the wife he just murdered, I find him utterly useless. He spews shock, so gets attention. But useless nevertheless.

You honestly want to argue this is a role model for "calming the racial tension in America?" If so, I cannot agree.

 

I agree that his method (though I'm not sure it's a conscience effort on his part) is a bit uneducated. And I knew before Eminem was here that we are all the same. But not everybody else is in the same boat. My point is that America isn't only made up of intelligent, reasonable people. Some people live in a place where they are only made to believe that white is good or black is good. With Eminem, that bridge was gapped. For some, the only way to get through the truth of equality is to get a white guy doing what, in the past, only black people have done.

The point is valid with Tiger Woods as well.

 

Matt, I think you are not dealing directly with a pretty important point:

Are you saying that "what black people have done" is chant the rape and murder of their mothers, and murder of their wives? And if that is true, that Eminem, being white, shows white people can do the same? I categorically don't agree with the former proposition - this is not what stays in my mind when it comes to Black American contributions to our shared history; and, even if allowing it, what the hell is the value of the latter? This is skewed thinking, in my mind. Sorry.

Tiger: I agree, Tiger's great. Not because he emulates "white." Because he is Tiger Woods. He just is. He knows himself.

 

My argument is void of debate over the content of his music. My point is much more simple then that. When one race sees another participating in something that was historically not shard with that race, it helps.

Eminem may be just like a million other idiots that run their mouth with nonsense. But where he is different is that he serves a purpose. He is a "means to an end", nothing more.

If you are denying the impact he has had (ignoring the content of some of his music) on America when dealing with racial issues and changing the beliefs of peple under the age of 25, I would have to disagree.

Most people don't think of the rape of his mother or the murder of his wife when asked of Eminem. They think of a white rapper. And most people (at least those not affilated with golf) wouldn't think of the many tournaments Tiger Woods has won. They would think of a black golfer.

 

"Cross-race" acts are good, or they are bad, are they not, on the merits, like any act? By this logic, are you not saying that the most heinous acts typically reserved to whites, historically, so long as they are emulated by some moron from another race, is an unqualified "good." Or, in your words, "it helps." I'm sorry - but I can't go with this.

I would also venture more people who know of Tiger Woods are, well, into golf, and know of him as a kick-ass golfer. Much, for me, like watching Jordan get air, or my pal the Scottish Highland piper who can blow a mean, old, lament. A guy who knows his game, who knows himself.

Respectfully,

Paul

 

Well hands down I think the video was good