Embassy Guard: Sex Acts Required For Promotion At U.S. Embassy In Afghanistan

Private security guards at the U.S. Embassy in Kabul were pressured to participate in naked pool parties and perform sex acts to gain promotions or assignment to preferable shifts, according to one of 12 guards who have gone public with their complaints.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/02/embassy-guard-sex-acts-re_n_275880.html

Freedom..liberty...liberating the Afghan people. Must make you proud to be American eh?

 

What do you expect when we trained radicals in the 80's against the soviets. even in the cia factbook they always preferred dictators rather then democratic governments in that region. Witha democratic region we cant control their assets like we can with a dictator at the helm.

The people that are forcing others to do this should be thrown in jail immediately.

By the way Thraxed I saw the gallow - hitchens debate. Even though galloway was a little to far left for me, he totally schooled hitch with all the facts. He totally destroyed him when he said that hitchens was against the first gulf war in 1991 even though saddam invaded kuwait and then did a u-turn and was for the war in 2003. Hitchens is one mixed up human being.

 

If this is how they treat the guards
Just Imagine how they would be treating the the 'prisoners'

like they treated Aafia Siddiqui

who went missing for 5 years and resurfaced in a miserable condition, abused and severely tortured

 

New, I read a little about this woman.

http://www.arabnews.com/?page=7&section=0&article=112860&d=15&m=8&y=2008

I dont know enough to form an opinion on ths yet as I have to read more then one article. Its only fair that everyone here research this more if we are going to post about it. Seems like she was a deeply religious woman, but not sure about the accusations against her. If she was guilty, why did no court ever charge her fully?

 

Now She is on trial in the US
She might be guilty, she might not be that is not the question

However I do have concerns about

The way she was picked and handled
abused, forced to live and bath with male prisoners
raped, physically tortured ,
denied a trial,
everyone was kept unaware of her detention
her children were made to suffer with her


All this done by the honorable AMERCIANS whose supporters don't get tied of chanting HUMANITY HUMANITY all the time

Where were the moral values, where were the human right laws?
Where was the american media who goes nuts over craziest of things , why this criminal silence ?

I will also like to ask the fellow Americans If an American citizen is abducted in this way by another country (irrespective of he/she is guilty or not) what will be your reaction ?


read more
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=21777867538
http://www.draafia.org/about-aafia-siddiqui/

 

Is she also sueing the people that did this to her and bringing them to trial also? What are her legal rights here?

 

I don't think so
she was held in Afghanistan at Baghram for many years
Americans deny that
Her case came to limelight only when a British journalist reported that Pakistani women had been kept at Baghram prison in miserable conditions otheriswe the abuse at afgahnistn would have continued indefinitely

After reports in Media, Americans claimed that they had arrested her in July 2008
That happened only after news about her started coming in media

 

At this point I think we need to worry less about liberating these barbarians and more about just containing their cavemanism to that small part of the world. It wouldn't be so bad if they had to rely on their own technology to try to force their 7th century views of the world on the rest of us, I mean there's only so much damage you can do with a rock. But they want control of Pakistan, which has 20th/21st century weapons. Scary.

 

I'd say 7th century barbarianism is a compliment to these Americans involved, they are much more primitive than that .

 

Thraxed, not all americans believe that our government is a god that never lies and is unreproachable. Poor logicflux got owned in our debate and got owned in his own method of posting which is cia memos. When someones little fantasy world gets broken, they get very angry because they have to look at the, and for people like him the truth is a hard thing to accept . Galloway destroyed hitchens because he brought out the facts. He may have been a bit loud but that doesnt take away from his message. Notice how logicflux posted a link to his cia memo post, but failed to post a link to the next post that followed which made him say UNCLE and completely stopped him from posting. I love the pacman pic as it emphasized the complete trouncing i gave him on the facts. Usually when someone loses a debate that bad they try to pick up the habits of a winner, but as you can see by his avatar he has chosen to put a pick of someone else that was also debunked by me. Why do you think he lost it all and put hitch on his avatar. lololol. I consider that the ultimate compliment from one poster to another.

You know what they say: BIRDS OF A FEATHER ....

You know we are good friends logic, but I had to call you out on mossadegh. Next time remember to research all of the facts and not 50%.
The truth is always 100% I 100% proved that our governments goal in iran in 1953 wasnt motivated by the fear of iran falling into the soviet sphere of influence, and when i debunked the copy and paster logicflux he flew into a tirade because he couldnt find anything to counter my facts.

Thraxed for an anatomy of a complete and total debunking see the whole thread http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1475953 and not just part of the truth

God bless

 

ironically the cavewomen in question here is a MIT graduate

What do you say If an American is abducted in the same way by another country ?

 

Shit like this happens in a war zone no matter what country the force belongs to. If the taliban hadn't harbored international terrorists and hadn't threated the civilized world around them, we probably wouldn't give a shit enough about them to be there in the first place. Why don't you have a shred of honesty and start blaming the Taliban and Al Qaeda.

 

New, the problem with Logicflux and people like him is that he think democracy means hiding our governments acts underneath the table and believing that it cannot lie to us ever. This is the mindset of most sheep. A true patriot isnt afraid to question the establishment in the pursuit of truth.

Ill answer your question new: If this thing happened to american he would be screaming terrorism.

This is a no brainer questionand answer.

 

I can't tell if this is sarcasm or serious.

 

If we had harbored international terrorists that attacked and killed innocent people randomly around the world I'd probably be like, well we kind of deserve these drunken, stupid frat boys here until we get our own shit in order and stop being a threat to the rest of the world.
And pong, if you're a patriot then chris hitchens is the pope. You don't "question" in order to make anything better. Your ideology is one of either foreign policy nihilism or outright hatred for the US. If you are indeed here(and I'm not sure you are) you should probably just move to some place that's more tolerant of authoritarian regimes and terrorists. Why don't you go join the jihad in Afghanistan?

 

See thraxed this is how people blank out these events and justify them. This is how hitchens justified the 2003 iraq war and this is how hitchens even today says he has facts that say that WMD and alquaeda were in iraq before 2003. Its this type of fantatical thinking thats dangerous for peace loving people in this world.

 

OK...LogicFlux is definitely a troll account.

 

Amazing justification of brutalities and atrocities. It was probably the realization of the truth that hit so hard after the mossadegh debate that finally did it. I remember playing my older bro pingpong in front of 100 people watching at the recreation center . It was one of the most competitive matches in that area as we were the 2 best players in our little area. He beat me 2 out of 3 games and I didnt come out of my room for 2 weeks. I good debunking does that

 

Hey I know another guy who was really good at pingpong. You guys were probably in some of the same classes.

Really, you didn't come out of the room for 2 weeks? Is it after this episode that you decided that from then on, when you got beat down and humiliated that instead of taking the failure as a man and moving on you would instead run around town and proclaim to random people that you had won? When exactly did you decide that repeating "I won" over and over is the same as actually winning? How many times did your brother have to whip your ass at pinpong before this dishonest, obsessive compulsive behavior manifested itself?

 

I am appalled at the original story, the embassy guard story. The company in question is a British company, ArmorGroup, Ltd., a private security services firm. ArmorGroup has been under the glare before, so I'm not surprised, though it doesn't make it any more acceptable.

One reason I have a strong issue with the notion of private law enforcement, private military defense, private security forces. I do not believe the future panacea is to simply leave these kinds of needs up to the market.

On the story of Aafia Siddiqui, I cannot know any more than I've read, obviously. What I've read shows the woman was no princess, and does seem to have funnelled monies to Pakistan for the purposes of terrorist activity; what I've read seems to indicate she is very much an active al-qaeda supporter, and committed terrorist. What I've read says that she was shot because she fired on an incoming group of U.S. service personnel.

It also appears the woman may very likely have been lying on "being held for 5 years captivity." I have seen contrary reports, anyway. An excerpt:

http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Fhostednews%2Fap%2Farticle%2FALeqM5iTN4w3kCOjtCSOP0WvpNLHU9EP0wD997TP281&date=2009-07-30

My country has done wrong; it isn't perfect, and I believe it should account for its misdeeds, like any other nation under principles of civilization and law.

That said, it would be equally naive to say my country is peopled with satans personified.

Now, as I said, all I can know is from reading on this; for all I know, all the news on this woman is a crock - for all I know, it's all propaganda, both the sources that lionize her as a martyr to U.S. evil, when she is in fact exactly what U.S. authorities maintain she is; or, propaganda, that she is a terrorist, when she is really nothing more than a benign scientist trying to go about her benign work. I cannot know the truth. None of us can. Because none of us were there. The best we can do is try to source the best material we can, try to see corroborating information, and try, then, to discern the best guess of the actual truth. I've made my best guess, based on what I've read.

Perhaps I'm wrong, perhaps I'm right. I wish to god I knew. There are plenty of deluded ideologues everywhere to support whatever brand of illusion floats their boat, and for all I know, I'm one of them. That said, New, you called me a Muslim hater, because I refute your using nazi sources to malign one founder of our country as having warned my country of the "cancer of Jewry"; because I condemn child rape, in the name of Islam, and I condemn you, for tacitly supporting that crime, by avoiding the unsavory subject altogether. You will, no doubt, simply veil your eyes here, too, and say it's all part of my "hate" that leads me to post my findings. I hope others see the truth of things, better.