What am I excusing? I don't see any difference so I don't think I can be excusing something. Seriously, in what way is the price relevant? Is there something more morally, ethically, or legally wrong with a person buying a $1000 hooker versus a $100 or even $10? Tell me, I am curious, maybe I am overlooking some issue. I just don't get the distinction you are making based on price. Why is it different?
I've often thought the same question when reading your posts after a terrorist attack. I'm sure you can appreciate good irony when you see it
I wonder how many millions in consulting fees was paid out. A lot of times you ask yourself where the money is going from companies that are posting bigtime losses.
Ha Ha GT welcome back! Some of us here thought you might have been out in Iraq fighting in your hero Dubya's BS "war on terror"
why would you reconsider putting your support behind him? Why would it matter if he paid for some sex or didn't?
Because in the US, family values are a key characteristic voters look for in candidates. If you're married for 50 years, and out banging hookers, that doesn't sit well with most people. As the Democrats once opined, the President is "our great moral teacher" which I think is a lot of BS, but as you can see here on DP, a lot of people worship the President, no matter how evil, stupid or self-interested they are.
My personal view of him doesn't matter, it's knowing the game of politricks that matters. You don't get a second chance at a first impression, so it really matters who represents this new movement. The fact that Ron Paul isn't a corrupt asshole like everyone else, made me like him even more when I saw him.
This is the whole point of what a joke this all is and how so many Americans don't seem to have a mind of their own and figure out the math. Spitzer dared to do that which most wouldn't - he took down big money on Wall Street and made many enemies. He did good for the people and his sleeping with a hooker was no different than Clinton expect that Spitzer could pay for it. The public would rather vilify Mr. Righteous because he paid from his own money for a prostitute than they would a philandering politician who influences women around his office into having sex with him. What a pathetic double standard. What's ridiculous is that all these victims of the media can't think of this easily and say "ok, so what's the big deal?" It isn't except that (a) the man's hubris grew to astronomical proportions after his cleaning up of Wall Street, and (b) if he preaches righteous behavior it's a big embarrassment to intentionally break the law, even if it's one that many think is absurd. Heck, he could have done this legally in Nevada, whatever that means. Considering there are real villians out there, jumping on the bandwagon and calling Spitzer a "criminal" is ludicrous. His family could call him criminal but that's about it. The people most angry are the big rollers who were getting away with murder on Wall Street - look now at the mortgage scandals as it's happening again but nobody is paying for it. Spitzer also got way to big for his britches and his ego unnecessarily ticked off a LOT of people over the past year or two. That is what did him in more than anything else. What's more of a joke is you hear nothing of the other politicians who STOLE funds from the public's coffers. That's a real crime that every one of us have to deal with because we're paying for it. This is just a media sensation, and understandably so, but the guy doesn't deserve the absurd vitriol being spewed by people that weren't affected by him.
It is great that he resigned. But frankly he should do it right from the start rather than wait for mounting pressures to force him to resign. I hope to see further investigations on those allegations against the Sheriff of Wall Street. Hopefully they won't stop just because he resigned but investigated the same way as they would had for a normal citizen.
If this were for a normal citizen, Spitzer would have had his wrists slapped and he would have walked without any fanfare. The focus of the investigation would have been on the true perpetrators of the crime which were the "pushers and suppliers" - the house of prostitution. But the media has you guys focused on righting this righteous speaking dude. Yeah, he had too much hubris and now is paying for it. But big deal. You made less of a big deal against real criminal politicians who stole your money.
this is really a very bad way of handling these issues. i think what they do in any bedroom should not be a problem to this extent.and using paid escort should be a personal issue just look in the craigslist the business is booming. this proves that although it is illegal and immoral it is not unusual. by making it such a big issue we make our politicians vunreble to influences by shady people. it seems that all you need to destroy someone is catching them with an escort. it does not take much to trap a man like that or maybe even a woman. not a good idea in my opinion. just a different way of looking at it
Drudge Report is saying that this is the woman who Spitzer did the horizontal bee-bop with: http://www.myspace.com/ninavenetta
I'm disappointed in Spitzer. I thought he had a great run as state's attorney general. Looks like power got to this guy...and he got way to big for his britches...altho, if smatts and drudge are correct, that girl in myspace could tell us a helluva lot more about whether he was too big for his britches or not
The issue is not so much the prostitution by the wire transfers and how it was billed. Gambling and prostitution are legal is some states. The US government even owned the 'bunny ranch' outside of Vegas. I would suspect that a lot of expense reports get padded with consultants when in fact the money is paid to escort services. In the end the stockholders are they ones getting robbed. New York will now have the third black govenor since reconstruction and he is actually an Afriamerican as oppossed to Obama that is half African-American. The new Governor is well repected by both parties and from the face he should do a good job in New York.
That would have been something Spitzer might have gone after in his better days. It actually sounds like Paterson is very well respected and may just be able to get some real progress. Even the Republicans seem excited to work with him. He has a unique history and sounds like a good honest man.
The big money he so called took down is a joke, he blackmailed a lot of corporate boards to put his friends in high positions, pay fines and operate business how he saw fit, He went after the middle guys who didn’t have the million dollar check books to pay his fines, yet a lot of those cases were lost in the court rooms but that didn’t matter, as long as King Spitzer went on TV it convicted you, it was good for him. Spitzer as an AG was a bully who though he could operate above the law, he took down prostitution rings while he himself was paying for prostitutes. Also there are now looking into the issue that he might of used public funds to pay for his hookers.
Always a problem with corruption when someone is involved with hookers or gambling. Spitzers campaign had a lot of debt. How many high priced consultants did he have on the payroll?