Einstien calls the BIBLE "childish" !!!

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by mussolinihitler, Aug 1, 2008.

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    "The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this."

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24598856/
     
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    So...what's your point? Are you happy or upset about Einstein's opinion of the bible?
     
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    well.....im partly surprised that einstien was brave enough to make such a comment......and i would rather stand by Einsteins point of view about religion too.....
     
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    Many rituals/superstitions/religious beliefs are things that have outlived their reasons and the situations which made them exist.
    But religions do have some positive messages to impart. Buddhism is the one that has most IMHO.
     
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    Religion is a comfort for people who are scared of death/ afterlife.
     
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    Well said, buddy !


    Ive always thought that religion was a concept made by man himself, to wipe out the fear that after death we will have to leave this world forever. Religion fills man with the hope to continue seeing this earth and what happens in our world even after death. Imagine what would have happened if there was no concept as 'souls' and 'spirits'. I find it ridiculous that these ideas which originated in early ages, are still being used widely in religions nowadays, solely for the reason that man's selfish attitude wants him to believe that he would still be able to look down upon earth from heaven and watch what happens down below even after his death.
     
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    Einstein's religious views were not that uncommon among scientists in his time.
    Actually, they're not that uncommon among scientists now. :)

    Personally, I like this explanation of his religious beliefs best:
     
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    He was speaking his opinion, I don't necessarily have a problem with that. But others would dispute it, particularly historians from the The Smithsonian Institute, one of the most respected museums in the world.

    They said this about the bible: The Smithsonian's Statement on the Bible

    So while Einstein said that the stories in the bible were all "legend"... a lot of it happens to be accurate (I personally believe all of it is). It is accurate enough to the point that it could be considered a historical document. Not only that, but the most accurate in comparison to others.
     
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    He was a Jew.
     
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    I'm lost here, wmghori - are you saying he was a religious Jew, or his Jewishness is telling you something else? If so, what?
     
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    Einstein believed in an impersonal God.

    We've had a huge debate here about it.

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=794919&highlight=einstein

    "My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble minds. That deeply emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea of God."
     
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    That's my understanding as well. Something akin to the deism of the enlightenment.
     
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    Religious may be not but he was a Jew. Jews' religious book is the Torah not the Bible.
     
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    #14
    I'm confused.

    Firstly, I don't see how:

    and

    Go in the same logical universe. In other words, "maybe he wasn't religious - but the religious folk's book is the [you name it, whatever]." It doesn't make sense to me...If he was secular, and ethnically Jewish, what difference does it make if religious Jews' book is the Torah?

    Secondly, what relevance does his being ethnically Jewish have to do with either his atheism, if it was, or his deist belief in an impersonal god/deity/force?

    Sorry, I'm not understanding what you are saying.
     
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    IMO, you have made a factual error. People would go to heaven or hell only after Judgment Day, which will happen only after the Apocalypse. So, if you die before that, then you stay in a state of hibernation, and will be woken up, or resurrected, on the Judgment day.

    So, that means you can't know or see whats happening on Earth after you die...
     
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    Really? A factual error.

    That is fricking hilarious. Where does that "fact" come from?
     
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    Do you honestly believe in this stuff or are you just saying it just for the sake of argument?????
     
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    What the Smithsonian mean is the bible mentions some people who existed, some events which occurred and some places that were real. Lots of legends do that, it's not an indication of the validity of the legend it's self.

    In short, The Smithsonian aren't validating the stories in the bible, they are acknowledging some of it's historical and geographical accuracies, Which lots of made up stories both new and old have.

    As for Einstein's religious beliefs, They have been know for some time and have only been ignored by deceitful religious people who like to quote-mine and use the words of a dead man to say the exact opposite of what he actually meant.
     
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    Life is a miracle.

    God is real.
     
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    Web, for me, I see life as a miracle as well - and am grateful such eons of time, and nature's creeping in the dark, have brought me the world I live in now. A butterfly flitting among Narcissi - its color pleases me, its compound eyes train on me to ensure I'm not about to eat him, while he draws nectar from the daffodil. This is enough, to me - no third party needed.
     
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