Egypt looks like it is going DOWN

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Obamanation, Jan 28, 2011.

  1. Breeze Wood

    Breeze Wood Peon

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    #181
    The same for any Slanderer as yourself Corwin.
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    The military should just set a date for elections and insure their fairness and availability for everyone seeking office. The sooner the better.
     
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  2. imad

    imad Peon

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    #182

    does that mean no? you never heard about common sense? OK next time when I mention presidents and you are around, I will make sure to mention their nationality, I won't say for example the next US president, I will say, the next US president and between two brackets, I will say: (oh obamanation, btw, the US president is American) :D

    so US was sending a mostly military aid to Egypt in peace times, when there is no need to make wars, how stupid.

    at least 25 million, stop the gas deal with the illegal state of Israel, this alone will save them 3 billions, and this is not exactly corruption, it was US-Israel-Mubarak theft operation, without mentioning bringing back what Mubarak and his gang been stealing and putting in banks out Egypt.

    bluh bluh, do you really think US is giving these aid for free? or to keep peace, if so then you are so naive.
     
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  3. robjones

    robjones Notable Member

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    #183
    You keep preceding a proper noun with your opinion of it. Are there several Israels and you're making sure we know which one?

    Should we all use this literary affectation... Referring to you as "the foaming at the mouth Imad" or your cohort as "the stunningly incomprehensible breezewood"?

    I've yet to figure out exactly what you're pissed about in this thread. Appears to me the Americans in here are wishing Egypt well. Are you just unhappy with any result that doesn't include someone going to war with Israel? You're awfully willing to see wars fought to the last drop of somebody elses blood. Do you have a sideline business selling c4 and nails?

    This world could use a little more sanity and a little less retard jihad-boys turning pizza parlors into pink mist and carnage. Unfortunately Egypt is probably fixing to be invaded by nut jobs that do that ridiculous bullshit. Hopefully the citizens will have the wisdom to recognize it for what it is and avoid putting such blithering assholes in a position of authority.
     
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  4. Breeze Wood

    Breeze Wood Peon

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    #184
    Who is "all" - just curious that you need the input of others when insulting people or convincing yourself the "all" are any different than yourself and equally as influential to a public forum.
     
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  5. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #185
    @Imad: I'm not sure I can add anything to what Rob summed up in such a humorous and concise way. FTR, do you operate a business selling C4 and nails ;)?

    You said anyone. Believe when I say, there are plenty of Egyptians you would not be happy with. In fact, it already seems clear you will be unhappy with almost any Egyptian president who does business with Israel, instead of declaring war.

    The point is, your statement that "Any" replacement for Mubarak is idiotic at face value regardless of whether we are talking about your values, mine, or more importantly the values of the Egyptian people. As you have heard from the one Egyptian who has posted on this thread, Mubarak may not have been great, but he created a 30 year span of peace for his country, and that says a lot.

    You can't have peace without security, and you can't have security without arms/a military, especially in a region of the world with so many low IQ Islamists preaching an ideology of hate. There will be a lot less need for military aid when they average IQ in the region rises above 85.

    Assuming all your allegations about the sale of gas to Israel are true, for which you have yet to present a shred of evidence, lets look at the numbers. You would try to save 25 million lost in unprofitable gas sales to Israel at the cost of 1.5 billion in US Economic aid. With business sense like that, its no wonder poverty is so widespread in your part of the world.

    You have proof that it is something other than that, or is this just more useless hate mongering? Typical.

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    @Rob: I think we could get BreezeWood arguing for organized genocide, so long as he thinks he is arguing against you or I. I always got a chuckle out of Helvetii teaming up with the same Islamists he used to spend so much energy blasting away at, so long as it was against Team USA.
     
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  6. bogart

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    #186
    A democracy doesn't work unless it is in the framework of a republic. The Middle Eastern nations don't have the republican institutions to successfully guarantee a democratic government from takeover of Islamists or a strongman.

    Tehran will bar opposition rally

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110212...Ec2VjA3luX3RvcF9zdG9yeQRzbGsDdGVocmFud2lsbGJh

    Hamas rejects Palestinian Authority call for election

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110212...Ec2VjA3luX3RvcF9zdG9yeQRzbGsDaGFtYXNyZWplY3Rz
     
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  7. Breeze Wood

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    #187

    This is old news before it even happened - the same with Egypt and will be true with whoever is left in Iraqi that was a part of the "Hard Line" foreign policies that in the end has served no one and functioned purely on the morals of monetary incentives.

    The response to 911 as a concoction for right wing extremism was never a realistic agenda and its demolition is all the more appropriate in finding real solutions for the future and a new Administration capable of such an objective.
     
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  8. robjones

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    #188
    Ya know breeze, it's a shame you aren't really in the US. You'd make a bundle selling whatever fuels these off-topic rants.

    We arent here to bitch about Bush or worship at the feet of Obama. Egypt. We're talking about Egypt.
     
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  9. babak44

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    #189
    yeah right long way to real democrasy for Egyptian maybe but I'm so glad to see such victory for Egyptian people.

    yeah Iranian also going to make some protest tomorrow but not sure how many people will demonstrate in streets because situation here is so different from Egypt and our regimen is so brutal. our regimen arrested many Iranian after demonstration two years ago and also some of them hanged or still in jail.

    this is one of last phone calls mubarak made

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/mubarak-slammed-u-s-in-phone-call-with-israeli-mk-before-resignation-1.342831

     
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  10. Breeze Wood

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    #190



    Go away boy, my reference to Egypt within the post was offensive to you - we know, run to your moderator....
     
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  11. robjones

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    #191
    Yes, may referees to Egypt are offensive, as are july referees and august umpires.

    Must go find breeze-to-English translator.
     
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  12. Breeze Wood

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    #192
    Changing a posts spelling is a trick of yours? Your desperation, I guess is warented by your mentality.
     
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  13. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #193
    I think the unflappable and incoherent Breeze Wood has evolved into simply the incoherent Breeze Wood. How does the Garden view personal attacks?
     
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    #194
    Breeze - I responded to the post as written prior to you editing it, and it isn't easy to tell in your case what's a typo and what's the typical incoherent product of too much time in what you frequently refer to as The Garden.

    The point remains that it isn't necessary to hijack every thread to discuss your animosity for Bush or fanboy inspired love of Obama. It isn't the focus of this thread. Try to stay on the same page as the rest of the class please.
     
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  15. Breeze Wood

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    #195

    You always make an idiot out of yourself over anther persons spell-check?


    If you want to defend the rule of Mubarak as a proxy of proper governance, I'm afraid you have done as poorly there as with your intrusions with other peoples post and the same is said of your lackey O..nation.

    As I have stated, the previous Administrations zealotry and use of the 911 event for purposes of oppression are exemplified by the obviously predictable outcome to not only Mubarak but I believe will reach as well to Saudi Arabia.

    Both the United States and the Middle East have evolved to higher levels than those prosecuted by the immediate past leaders and their alliances.
     
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    #196
    If you can look at all I've posted in this thread and reach the wholly incompatible conclusion that I'm defending the rule of Mubarak, it really doesn't speak highly of your reading comprehension.
     
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  17. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #197

    Or the US.. ;)
     
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    #198
    The only country that is a true face of democracy and liberalism is America..... (Thts another story that casualties and collateral has to be borne by other countries)..
     
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  19. Corwin

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    I would normally enthusiastically agree. However, President Obama - who least we forget holds the honorary title of "Leader of the Free World" - has chosen NOT to lead and is instead taking a weak, timid position on all of this. I don't expect anything along the lines of "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down that wall" from Barry.

    I've heard that Obama doesn't want to comment because the seeds of revolution in Egypt, Libya, and others were secretly seeded years ago by President George W. Bush! This includes having people in place on the ground and the installation of hidden equipment to support internet "hot spots" that would maintain internet access even if the government turned off the switch.

    Certainly, Barry Obama would not want to be quoted as supporting a Republican President's plan to overthrow cruel dictators- no, Obama only supports a Democratic President's plan to overthrow cruel dictators!
     
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  20. Bushranger

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    #200
    So you're saying this overthrow (now over 2 years into Obama's presidency) was really from seeds planted by Bush (whilst Obama was in power) but the recession is all Obama's doing because he's in power now? - Now that you understand how seeds work, don't you think you may be wrong about how the US depression happened too?
     
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