Effect of CTR, Bid Price & AdGroup on Ad Position

Discussion in 'Google AdWords' started by Gynew, Sep 4, 2008.

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    I have spent the last few weeks really working on tweaking my AdWords account and for the most part things are going quite well, but I was just wondering what Google would do in this situation:

    There are two firms with ads set to display for a particular keyword. Firm A has the ad for the keyword in a specific exact match adgroup and the ad gets a CTR of 12% when the keyword is searched, while firm B's ad is in a general adgroup that gets a general CTR of 5%, but for keyword itself it gets a CTR of 8%. Firm A is bidding $1.50 and Firm B is bidding $2.40.

    Whose ad will generally be displayed in position 1?
     
    Gynew, Sep 4, 2008 IP
  2. seoster

    seoster Well-Known Member

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    I want to go with Firm B, but I could be wrong since there are other factors involved. I think your question should be rephrased as who will be displayed higher?

    The reason I would naturally go with Firm B is because bidding has a heavier weight than ctr itself, generally.

    Ranking = QS * BID

    So from a general assumptions and standpoint, using Google's "formula" (which will never be completely revealed), bid price carries a lot of weight. And in your example, Firm B's bid is 60% higher. So to answer your question, I don't really know, but we can justify somewhat favoring Firm B to obtain a higher ranking. I hope this makes sense. Its been a long adwords day again...
     
    seoster, Sep 4, 2008 IP
  3. robertpriolo

    robertpriolo Peon

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    well since google love to make as much money as possible, lets look at it the way they would

    Take this for example

    Firm A of 100 clicks @ 12% CTR = 12 clciks * 1.5 = $18 income
    Firm B of 100 clicks @ 5% CTR = 5 clciks * 2.4 = $12 income


    so who do you think google would rather show at this point?
     
    robertpriolo, Sep 5, 2008 IP
  4. PPC-Coach

    PPC-Coach Active Member

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    Firm a wins. :)
     
    PPC-Coach, Sep 6, 2008 IP