Easy to fake PR

Discussion in 'SEO' started by adacprogramming, Apr 30, 2008.

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    I didn't realize it was so easy to get a fake PR.

    I have a number of domains that I have bought and until I get around to using them I've pointed to my main automotive site, which is PR5.

    I get some traffic from these because of the keywords. Mostly I just want to get some age on them before I start working on the site.

    I finally removed the redirect on Redding Elite a couple weeks ago and started working on the site. It got a PR 5 on this update.

    Completely worthless PR of course:rolleyes: (no search traffic yet) But it looks like the site is doing something :) I haven't started promoting so I bet it would drop to a PR 0 on the next update.

    Interesting point is, I wonder how many of those High PR sites trying to sell a bunch of cheap links have done this so they can sell links.
     
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  2. techfired

    techfired Well-Known Member

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    Is there a way to detect a fake PR?
     
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  3. adacprogramming

    adacprogramming Well-Known Member

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    Not Real sure.

    In the case of my site, it's pretty obvious. There are no back links and at this time the site is not even indexed by Google or Yahoo.

    It might be a little tougher to tell if the person is trying to fool someone. I could get a few sitewide links and get the site indexed a couple days. At that point you would just have to investigate the links and see it it should reasonably be the PR that the toolbar is showing.

    Someone else may have a better way.
     
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    I would not be surprised if many people who sell high page rank backlinks use this tactic
    to artificially increase their page rank. You can use this tool to detect fake page rank
    http://www.seologs.com/pr-check/pagerank.html
     
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  6. adacprogramming

    adacprogramming Well-Known Member

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    That seems to work good for now. It even shows the site I was linking to.

    I'll be checking this to see how it reacts in the near future. I just removed the redirect about a week or two ago and so far have no links to the site.

    It seems possible that once I get a few links to the site, Google will notice that it is no longer redirected and the info operator will be updated to the new information. However, Google will not be updating the Toolbar PR for about 3 more months, leaving a large window for deceptive behavior.:eek:

    I wonder if the SEOlog method uses the same info. If so, then in a couple weeks my site should show up as legitimate PR.

    I think one of the strongest, indicators will probably be that none of the interior pages of my site will have any PR, which would be unusual it it were really a PR5 site.

    I've seen this on a number of sites selling links, Front page is high interior pages 0 or unranked. Possibly shows they're fake?
     
    adacprogramming, Apr 30, 2008 IP
  7. mejason12

    mejason12 Active Member Affiliate Manager

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    hihi nice one spiderman.:) but still i wonder how it happened. i saw a similar thread by rwin2007. i think the big-G's PR is getting unreliable.
     
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    This is indeed exactly how it's done. You buy a domain for a couple of dollars, do exactly as you say, then sell it off to an unsuspecting buyer for x10 the real value. I've seen it happen countless times - check the BST Domains topic for proof.
     
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  9. otraonline

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    Below is some help i taken from a blog =) Hope it helps

    Detect Fake Pagerank
    To detect Fake Pagerank, simply type in the webpage, such as -www.SiteWithFakePR.com into Google’s search and look at the cache. The cache will not be that of the site with Fake PR, it will be the site with the actual PR.

    Fake PR Example
    Here is a site that fakes their Pagerank: -www.pr10.darkseoteam.com and they also include examples of Fake PR 10, Fake PR9, Fake PR8 and more. Notice how the cache is of Google.com and not -www.pr10.darkseoteam.com? Try it for yourself, put -www.pr10.darkseoteam.com into the search field of Google and see the results for yourself.
     
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  10. adacprogramming

    adacprogramming Well-Known Member

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    That only works for a while. If you do this with my site. www.reddingelite.com. the first site that comes up is the norcalcars site it used to point to, but this is a list of sites that point to redding elite. if you look at the cashe for Redding Elite, it shows the site as I currently have it.

    I've started doing some promotion so Google has recashed my site, however it won't be until the next update that my PR drops to what it really should be, which I don't think I have it to a PR 1 yet. All I've done is start having some free directories point to it.

    Is there a way to detect that it is false Today (or before the next PR update) Right now I could trick people into buying PR5 links and it wouldn't be that easy to tell that it is fake.

    Another good reason why buying links strictly for the sake of PR is a bad idea.

     
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  11. otraonline

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    There are some other alternatives that your may want to consider

    Method A

    On google.com, simply type info:domain.com (the fake pr domain of course). If Google displays no results or if the result is another page that domain.com, the PR is Fake! =X

    Method B

    Alternatively you can u those online tools like DigPageRank Tool , which scans a range of Google DataCenters for an actual PR export. Green means it is valid, Red is fake =D

     
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    Will Google ban domain if they detect fake PR?
     
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    ya, it will be fantastic if google just bans sites faking their PR. Or anyway to stop PR faking? Save us a lot of time.

    Those people who faking their site(s) PR, and use it to make money are THIEF, if you did so, please touch your heart and ask your soul (if you still own it), "Should I continue to be THIEF? And live behind the disgracing mask through out my whole life?"

    Pls live your life truly...and face yourself honestly!
     
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  16. adacprogramming

    adacprogramming Well-Known Member

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    The problem with banning is that there is no way to tell intent. (besides the fact that there is no reason, google would even care)

    Fake PR is only an issue if you are trying to sell links (something Google doesn't like anyway). In my case there is no profit because I don't plan on selling links, It's just the result of me deciding to start working on a domain name I've had for a while.

    So if your accusing me of being a thief, you need to reread my posts.


     
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    The fake PR will show in digpagerank. I guess this occurs when there are many good inbound links pointing to an inactive site.
     
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    Thanks for this post, i will carefully check the real PR of the site before buying any links !
     
    crexsky, Aug 2, 2008 IP